Anyone see his take on the JFK deal?? He is trying to down play the truth about a conspiracy and another shooter(s) I know that the movie JFK was fictionallized "SOME" but it's a no-brainer the goverment was the only intatie that had enough power for a cover-up of this magnatude. What do you think??? Ronnie
I personally have a few theories but i'm not an expert. War is money, and Johnson pushed Nam after Kennedy was killed. Maybe this was fictionalized in the movie but Johnson signed a order reversing Kennedy's order to pull out of Nam. That was the 1st thing he did. I know part of the movie was fictionallized , like there never was a Mr.X goverment dude that Garrison met in Washington but that sounds believeable about Johnson. The mob could not have pulled off a job and a cover-up of that size. I've been watching the history channel all week about it. There is some dude that tracked the shooters. 1 died in the early 70's the other 2 was arrested (i think) in the early 70's for other crimes. They was from some foreign country but can't remember which one. Oswalds WIFE talked about some of his secret life and things that was going on with the gov. With foriegnsics (spelling?) they have proved that the fatal head shot came from the ground thru a storm drain as the car was passing. It goes on and on and I can't type that long but I believe our gov killed him or was in on it. Ronnie
Treasurary Dept. JFK was going to push for going back to Constitutional money because of inflation concerns and with the current system, the Fed. Reserve, it is a private bussiness making and destroying our money system. To print a $1, it cost $1.06. Then to destroy that $1 when pulled from circulation, we (taxpayers) pay another .04 !! The money is loaned to the gov., which is given to the people. National dept ? Under the system we been using, there always will be, even in sopposely balanced budget times. No such thing as balanced budget for the gov. JFK realized this, had meeting with fed. reserve chairman, Johnson, Hoover, and Chiefs of staff 3 days before leaving for his fatal tour. Fed. Reserve chairman, Johnson, and hoover stormed out of Oval office with one of them saying 'you'll be sorry for that' !
EUUUW And the fellow engineer stormed out of our LAST meeting!!! Guess I'm next.:ball: :blast: :ball:
I've seen the first series of "The Men Who Killed Kennedy" a couple of years ago. The same series is on this week with a few new additions from the '90's. Johnson was in deep trouble with dirty business deals with some big money oil people from Texas. He also had a "hench" man working directly for him that had a front job of something to do with Congress. He was directly linked to 17 murders of people that had "beefs" with Johnson or stood in his way. One particular guy was in charge of federal dept (agriculture maybe) and discovered some wrong doing in his dept which was approved and benefited Johnson and his friends in Texas millions of $$$. They tried to keep the guy quiet, but insisted on making right. He was found dead on his own farm, shot several times and was ruled a suicide. One of the 17 people that this hench man was shown to have been involved with their murder was Kennedy. This hench man had a mysterious fatal car crash in '74. Also, when Johnson didn't run again, he retired to his ranch in Texas where he became a recluse and had daily pshyco therapy for what the doctor said was his connection to the murder. There were also a few witnesses that also spoke that Johnson said a few days before the murder at a party in Texas where he had a private meeting with J. Edgar Hoover(what's Hoover doing in Texas?)"Those damned Kennedys won't imbarass me ever again." There were a few witnesses to that. Hoover had bad blood for Kennedy for his womanizing. He threatened Kennedy with photos if it didn't stop. The whole series is extremely intense if you like history. It's on the History Channel at night this week.
Peter Jennings does suck! My wife and I were laughing at the show. How can the big media still push the lone gunman theory? The Zapruder film alone is all the evidence you need! The JFK assassination is a great place to start looking at just how corupt the government really is. Once you read and watch enough information you can see the who, what, and why. There is only one truth and no amount of government/media distortion and disinformation can change that. The C.I.A. is holding the smoking gun. When JFK fired Allen Dulles over the Bay of Pigs mess, he signed his death warrant. The CIA planned the invasion behind Kennedy's back and tried to paint him into a corner to support the Cuban attack after it started. Men like Jim Garrison and Mark Lane were real heros to go against the establishment and bring things to light. Those are the kind of Americans I love to support! Here is Jim Garrison:
Then there were the copy cat crimes in the next few years in no particular order... Robert Kennedy John Lennon Martin Luther King George Wallace Larry Flint I'd like to editorialize on a couple of these guys but won't. Larry Flint in particular. No I won't .
Hi Ronnie, Thanks for starting the thread! Sutherland played the part of Mr. X in Stone's JFK. Even though Garrison did not fly to Washington to get the inside information, Mr. X is not a fictional character. He is Col. L. Fletcher Prouty. Being the military connection when the CIA needed big hardware from the armed forces, he was privy to an incredible amount of "insider" information. Prouty has his own book or books out too but I can't recall off hand if I have read them.ou: Time has a way of doing that! Here is a picture of Prouty:
No, he isn't Henry. Try this site, an unlikely but really good source of information. The Federal Reserve is no more Federal than Federal Express. http://www.bikernews.net/frb.cfm
I guess we'll never know the truth, but there's just enough un-answered questions, and conflicting eye-witness accounts to make me believe there was more to all this than just Lee Oswald. Too many coincidences, especially Jack Ruby. Then, let's not forget the crap our government was involved in back in the 50's and 60's.... [probably still are, just covering their tacks better] LSD expirementing on private citizens without their knowledge... NCB development [nuke, bio, chem weapons] Bay of pigs Medgar Evers Malcom X M.L. King J. Edgar Hoover [I would not put anything past that nut-case] I believe conspiracy
And Neil Armstrong travelled to Phoenix.. One step for man, one giant leap for Arizona. Just kidding I think.:beer
E. Howard Hunt Here is a little known twist to the JFK story. A newspaper I used to enjoy reading, called the Spotlight, did a story saying E. Howard Hunt of Watergate fame was a paymaster for JFK's assassins. It was a big story and the Spotlight was forced to back it up when sued by Hunt. Hunt initially won and the Spotlight had to pay. Then lawyer and author Mark Lane took the case. He had worked feverishly since the time of the assassination to determine what had actually happened, and realized he could successfully defend the Spotlight. He won an appeal! This is a huge story that had very little coverage in the mainstream media. Here is a typical coverage in the regular media: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/onpolitics/watergate/howardhunt.html
I loved the movie. Thanks for the tidbit Brian. I have been interested in this since I was little, then when I saw the movie it really pulled me in. Wished a moderator would edit my poll and spell lone (loan) correctly for me....OOPPS!!ou: I found Zapruder's film posted on another Buick site. http://users.snowcrest.net/marnells/zapruder.avi Ronnie
Something we all should concern ourselves with. Hi Ronnie, Your welcome! CNN has a picture worth posting of a former President and First Lady.
Henry, I wish I was kidding. Having a relitive who was nearly knocked over in the hallway outside the Oval Office, he wishes he was too. That is the most he has ever said about it. He was on security duty at the time.
there is a radio show called assasination journal on wwuh, university of hartford radio. it can be listened to on the web, quite interesting. i'll post a link later, i am at work (at u of h ) on a crappy mac computer.