Sealed 2K Primer on a Frame With No Topcoat?

Discussion in 'Color is everything!' started by ubushaus, Jan 16, 2012.

  1. ubushaus

    ubushaus Gold Level Contributor

    OK, I am done trying to do this at home with the wrong tools and no time. I found a guy that I like who will blast, prep, and paint my frame.

    He prefers shooting 5 Star Extreme High Build 2K Primer. The product can be used as a Primer/Sealer when mixed 4:1:2 (primer:activator:reducer).
    http://www.5starautobodyproducts.com/primers/5424.html

    He suggests that once sealed he would stop there and not use a topcoat. The manufacturer says not to use it as a topcoat since it is not formulated with U.V. protection.

    On the one hand I agree with him that a single stage topcoat (Bill Hirsch Chassis Black, Eastwood Extreme, etc.) is inferior to the 2K primer, but on the other hand the topcoat is the appearance layer. But is it required if the sealed primer has an acceptable appearance?

    Any thoughts are appreciated.
     
  2. 2791 lark custo

    2791 lark custo Gold Level Contributor

    Por-15 Sealer and it's the right color black
     
  3. rack-attack

    rack-attack Well-Known Member

    IMO you need to topcoat that primer. It's just a epoxy high build hybrid. It will soak up water
     
  4. ubushaus

    ubushaus Gold Level Contributor

    Thanks Chuck!

    I spoke to the Technical Assistance rep and while he says it will not soak up water unless it is sanded, he strongly encourages a topcoat to avoid chalking and breakdown eventually leading to the soaking problem.
     
  5. 69Cat

    69Cat Active Member

    i would also consider, even if blasted, using a metal prep as there is rust deep in those frames, a good epoxy primer and then something like eastwood's chassis black. I've used a 3 step process like this several times with frames and repairs and they look outstanding. I'm not doing show cars, but drivers though.
     
  6. Freakazoid

    Freakazoid Gold Level Contributor

    X2, on the POR-15. I love the stuff.
     
  7. RACEBUICKS

    RACEBUICKS Midwest Buick Mafia

    We use an epoxy sealer. It does not require topcoat. DP90 PPG and it looks factory. This is what even Dave Kleiner did to my GSX resoration years and years ago. It looks new still today.
     
  8. 87GN_70GS

    87GN_70GS Well-Known Member

  9. speedtigger

    speedtigger 9 Second Club

    DP 90 is awesome. Just don't breath it!
     
  10. dl7265

    dl7265 No car then Mopar

    x2 DP90 , that por15 is nasty stuff.


    DL
     
  11. UNDERDOG350

    UNDERDOG350 350 Buick purestock racer

    DP-90 or have it powdercoated.
     
  12. scott kerns

    scott kerns Silver Level contributor

    HOW ABOUT RUSTOLEUM? AND THEN THERE WAS A GASP FROM THE CROWD!!!!!!!!! :)

    Scott
     

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