single stage vs. base coat/clear coat paint.

Discussion in 'Color is everything!' started by Buickgs1, Jun 20, 2011.

  1. Buickgs1

    Buickgs1 Well-Known Member

    Going to shoot the 72 GS350 in the original Burnished Copper... what is the consensus on what type of paint I should go with? What tip size should I use with this light metallic color? What PSI do you usually run at the gun with an HVLP? Thanks painters!
     
  2. speedtigger

    speedtigger 9 Second Club

    I would never spray a metallic color in single stage. You can't wet sand and buff it if you need. Base clear is the only way to go.
     
  3. Buickgs1

    Buickgs1 Well-Known Member

    That's what I'm reading... anybody like a specific brand of paint?
     
  4. Golden Oldie 65

    Golden Oldie 65 Well-Known Member

    23-25psi at the gun with HVLP. As already stated, base/clear on metallics. Use a 1.3 fluid nozzle if you have one. I've been using Dupont for 30 years and am very happy with it but I'm sure you'll get varying opinions on brand.
     
  5. speedtigger

    speedtigger 9 Second Club

    I think all the majors: PPG, DuPont, Sikkens have an excellent product these days. Excellent and really expensive. A lot of the shops around here have gone water based base coats. From what the painters tell me, it is excellent but takes some getting used to.
     
  6. Buickgs1

    Buickgs1 Well-Known Member

    water based... I have seen some stuff on that... That would just be strange to this old dog... might as well look into it... I loves to save me some $$$ :TU:
     
  7. speedtigger

    speedtigger 9 Second Club

    I did not mean to imply it was cheaper. I actually don't know the price difference. You will spend far more money on the clear coat and dry products than you will on base coat. That is the cheap part if there is such a thing when talking about body shop supplies.
     
  8. Buickgs1

    Buickgs1 Well-Known Member

    So how much base and clear do you think I will need to do the complete job? Quarts... gallon?
     
  9. bullisbm

    bullisbm Well-Known Member

    Are you jamming it or just a repaint? I am using a gallon of bc and a gallon of clear for mine but I am not jamming. You will probably need a gallon and a half if you jam.
     
  10. speedtigger

    speedtigger 9 Second Club

    It will depend on which clear you choose. Some go a little further than others. If you choose dupont, and you are doing the jambs, you might need 2 gallons of clear and 1 gallon of color for copper metallic. If you go PPG, you might get by with a gallon and a half. Of course, if you don't paint often, a little extra is good for oopsy and what not.
     
  11. craigman

    craigman Active Member

    I would say 1 gallon of base and 2 gallons of clear.
    I've shot just about every type of paint and brand of paint in the past 20 years. Solvent based and water based.
    Dupont, PPG, Sikkens, ect, all the big name brands all good stuff. All have their good and bad points.
    For a complete paint job, inside and out, i really like Sherwin Williams (Martin Senior,, the same thing). The base coat lays down super nice, and their clear is amazing.
    Just my personal choice for a nice car. Now for everyday production (what i do for a living) PPG is pretty much the industry standard. User friendly, but the base coat is a little transparent and heavy metalics can lay down a little rough compared to others.
    Like i said, you can't go wrong with any of the big name brands. It basically boils down to user choice. Just make sure you get a good urethane paint. Stay away from the enamels and laquers.

    Good luck man!
    Craig
     
  12. Buickgs1

    Buickgs1 Well-Known Member

    Cool! Thanks for all the reply's!
     
  13. bullisbm

    bullisbm Well-Known Member

    If you are doing your own wet sanding you will to kill yourself before you are done. :laugh:
     

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