Spinning the Wheel of 455 Mystery

Discussion in 'Street/strip 400/430/455' started by Buickpwrdolds, Feb 19, 2020.

  1. Buickpwrdolds

    Buickpwrdolds Well-Known Member

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    Picked this guy up for cheap this morning. Not that I would have paid any good money for it, it's a classic "so and so rebuilt it xyz years ago and it didn't have many miles on the build when pulled". It was also a "1970", which the block #1241735 tells me is not the case. No two letter codes to be found, so decks might have been cut on, indicating rebuild truth. All I know is the block seems to be pontiac blue, the heads are black, the thing turns free, and I don't see any big holes in it. I'll take bunches of pictures when I get it in the shop and tear into it, I'm sure all of you know just how many possibilities I could find in store! (Not all of those are good ones either :confused::))
     
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  2. Matt Knutson

    Matt Knutson Well-Known Member

    It looks like EGR or A.I.R. motor. Strange looking thermostat housing.
     
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  3. Buickpwrdolds

    Buickpwrdolds Well-Known Member

    Googling says the block is 72-75 so you are probably correct, but it does have a non-AIR intake on it, or at least that's how I understand it. It lacks the bosses that run parallel to the valve covers on the sides of the manifold
     
  4. Bigpig455

    Bigpig455 Fastest of the slow....

    Somebody's been into that motor. I bet you find all sorts of interesting things.
     
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  5. Stage2

    Stage2 Well-Known Member

    I'm guessing it's a '75-'76 engine. Traces of blue paint, HEI and later valve covers, and the EGR intake. The thermostat housing looks like it's from a V6.
     
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  6. TrunkMonkey

    TrunkMonkey Totally bananas

    Yep. Like, spiders and snakes...
     
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  7. 436'd Skylark

    436'd Skylark Sweet Fancy Moses!!!!!

    I think your right on the money.
     
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  8. Buickpwrdolds

    Buickpwrdolds Well-Known Member

    Popped a valve cover, I'd say it's been rebuilt for sure, but the question of how well remains for now. It's hospital clean in there.
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    What's the deal with this head casting? All I can find is "72-76", surely they didn't use the same casting number on both the early style head and the late open chamber head?


    EDIT: it appears these are 75-76 heads, so big open chambers. Bring on the 7.8:1 compression. I guess I'll start looking for some heads lol
     
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  9. Buickpwrdolds

    Buickpwrdolds Well-Known Member

    I don't doubt this, actually sort of expect it myself, but the blue on this engine has been done after the fact. In spots I can wipe the dust off it has almost a metallic look to it, like old Pontiac engine color.
     
  10. gsgnnut

    gsgnnut Well-Known Member

    bolt it in and go
     
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  11. flynbuick

    flynbuick Guest

    Looks like a 70 divorced choke.
     
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  12. 436'd Skylark

    436'd Skylark Sweet Fancy Moses!!!!!

    No that's the 75-76 hot air choke. A 70 intake will not work with those heads. The exhaust crossover would be exposed.
     
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  13. flynbuick

    flynbuick Guest

    Do you see an air rail on the intake?
     
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  14. Buickpwrdolds

    Buickpwrdolds Well-Known Member

    There are no raised rails on the intake but it has the head casting for 75-76 so I assune the worst regardless
     
  15. 70 GMuscle

    70 GMuscle Plan B

    You can always get an edelbrock performance intake.
    They bolt on my 73heads
    Have fun
    Nuttin like a big block!!
     
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  16. flh73

    flh73 Gold Level Contributor

    I have two sets of those heads 8322 Off engine yes open chamber. Wonder what you would get with shaved heads and block. 9.5:1 wouldn’t be to bad.
     
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  17. 436'd Skylark

    436'd Skylark Sweet Fancy Moses!!!!!

    75-76 455 didn't have A.I.R... so no. Plus the blocked egr valve is clearly visible at the back of the intake. Also there is a piece of rubber hose over the choke tube with a bolt stuck in it.....
     
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  18. Buickpwrdolds

    Buickpwrdolds Well-Known Member

    I understand correctly that a performer will not bolt on these heads, even if through some miracle it does turn out to have some compression?
     
  19. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    AFAIK, the Performer intake will bolt to any 400-430-455 head. At worst, you might have to block some AIR holes.
     
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  20. Buickpwrdolds

    Buickpwrdolds Well-Known Member

    I must have been thinking of the early iron intake not fitting or something. I'm sure the heads will have to go anyways. Chamber shape aside, the only way I can see the people who were in it getting any kind of compression is with a flat top piston, which I do not expect to find. It was around 10 years ago when it was supposedly done, so I'm not sure what piston options were available at the time.
     

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