Spray guns

Discussion in 'Color is everything!' started by stall1970, Oct 27, 2013.

  1. stall1970

    stall1970 Well-Known Member

    Been using a deviliss 502 paint gun and was thinking it time to go to a hvlp gun, was wondering what gun everyone are using? Thanks
     
  2. hugger

    hugger Well-Known Member

    I use a IWATA LP400, very good spraying gun, pain to clean tho, I paint 2 to 4 cars everyday and I have 6 guns most are devillbis that just sit on the rack

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    The devilbiss finishline guns are a lot lighter easy to clean and priced alot less but still good guns
     
  3. laz

    laz Silver Level contributor

    I have been using the SHARPE fx3000
    with 1.4 mm tip, same tip for base coat / clear coat and single stage urethane.

    http://www.sharpe1.com/sharpe/sharpe.nsf/Page/Finex+FX3000

    I have my old Sharpe suction feed that I'm using for primer only.
    It does take some time to get use to it, but it works really well.
    I paid around $150.00, of course they are better and DeVILBISS is king.
    Everyone has their choice.

    One thing for sure clean it between base coat and clear if not your gun will be ruined.

    Just my opinion,
    Laz
     
  4. mltdwn12

    mltdwn12 Founders Club Member

    I've always used an old school suction gun and was thinking about going to an HVLP gun for my occasional garage paint work. Does it take a lot to get used to as far as getting a nice finsh laid down?
     
  5. hugger

    hugger Well-Known Member

    gonna have to move that arm faster prob will feel weird at first with the cup on top but you'll throw the siphon gun away, 1.2 tip will be a better starting for the occasional painter the bigger the tip the faster you gotta move, I always leave 2 threads out on the needle adjust pattern till its at its widest but yet solid pattern then 30 to 40lbs at the gauge
     
  6. sjb89

    sjb89 Silver Level contributor

    I use a SATA JET 4000 HVLP with a 1.3 tip. After you use that gun, you'll throw away your other ones in the trash.
     
  7. ronbz455

    ronbz455 Big Butz Racing

    What's the cost of that one Sata 4000? Did you try the Iwata and like the Sata better?
     
  8. sjb89

    sjb89 Silver Level contributor

    That gun costs @ $800.00. I am more comfortable with a Sata. Personal preference i guess.
     
  9. ronbz455

    ronbz455 Big Butz Racing

    I never had the chance to spend that much on a paint gun but I bought a Finishline kit and it laid down the color good but the clear was lean and I had to wet sand alot. I bought the Harbor Freight professional set and it laid the clear down great with little or no wet sanding. I want to try an Iwata next.
     
  10. StratoBlue72

    StratoBlue72 Well-Known Member

    My dad has a barely used Sata 2000 HVLP digital with a 1.3 tip, .75 Liter aluminum cup that he would probably jump at the chance to sell. It was probably about $600 new wholesale. I can check and see what he wants to get out of it.
     
  11. 71stagegs

    71stagegs bpg member #1417

    Guys I'm shooting my Riviera what is a good clear to do over all PPG concept clear ? I don't want to use any of these cheap clears thanks
     
  12. ronbz455

    ronbz455 Big Butz Racing

    What's the difference between a SATA 2000 and a 4000?
     
  13. hugger

    hugger Well-Known Member

    Ive only had 1 SATA and I didnt care for it, was like 10yrs ago tho, pattern wasnt wide enough for the coarse metallics imo, ive sprayed just about every clear out there, the best I have ever used and use on my high end jobs is 2021 ppg, I use MATRIX as my production clear and alot of GENSTAR the BABY BLACK FIRE clear of genstar is the best spraying clear I have ever sprayed stuff flows out amazing but will hold corners and stays where u put it, buffs like butter, MATRIX clear I use the MS20 and the MS42 both are very good budget clears that have a lifetime warranty thru Matrix , I use a W400 IWATA not a LP400 as I had said , paint store sent down the LP for me to try while back guess thats why it was in my head but anyway the W400 I have was like $450 the Develbiss GT PLUS, was my gun for years still use it occasionally much easier to clean than any gun little heavy and priced around $385 ,also don't be afraid to cut clear with reducer most all clears are 2to1 or 4to1 but 10 to 20% reducer wont hurt a thing and will make it spray and lay a lot better
     
    Last edited: Oct 30, 2013
  14. 71stagegs

    71stagegs bpg member #1417

    I shot 2021 about 6 years ago its still the best? It gets hard all these new production clears are soft and seem to dull back.What did you cut the 2021 with?Thanks for the info.:TU:
     
  15. JESUPERCAT

    JESUPERCAT No Slow Boat

    I have been using a Devilbiss OMX gun for about 16 years( I have 2 plus a lot of parts:grin:).
    I can put down a 16" fan pattern of clear with no coverage lines. It uses alot of air/cfm but low pressure.
    It is by far the lightest gun I have used/tried out as it is mostly plastic. Very easy to clean. It also has 2 triggers which makes doing roofs much easier.
    I know new guns are probably better, it's just hard to change what is not broken. I must be getting old:Dou:

    If anyone has any of the old OMX's that they want to get rid of let me know ( working or not).


    As hugger said look into reducing your clear some also regardless of the gun you use.
     
  16. hugger

    hugger Well-Known Member

    yea the production clears will haze out I guess that's why they are $160 a kit vs $400 for 2021 or pretty much any other top shelf clear , if buffing 2021 let it dry for 24hrs then sand then sit another 48 to 72 b4 buffing that will help eliminate and hazing and be a ton easier to sand b4 it gets crazy hard
     
  17. StratoBlue72

    StratoBlue72 Well-Known Member

    I would check into one of the Glasurit clears. Glasurit is pretty much known to be the top of the line, from primer thru clear. Clears that get just rock hard are not necessarily the best. Hard means brittle, which chips easy. Or if you ever have to do PDR, very good chance of cracking it.

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    The 4000 is 2 designs newer, there was a 3000 in there. We've not used a 3 or 4000, so I can't say what all differences there are. But someone that sells Sata should be able to fill you in.
    All I know is that we don't use an hvlp unless it's an absolute necessity, like for blending a tough color such as certain golds and silvers. Would hate to have to clear with one.
     

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