Stage 1 parts on a 71 Riviera?

Discussion in 'Street/strip 400/430/455' started by carlivar, Sep 3, 2007.

  1. BOnoP

    BOnoP Well-Known Member

    Re: Satge 1 distributor?

    I can't confirm the distributor, never found a 2016.
     
  2. flynbuick

    flynbuick Guest

    It will be interesting to see what numbers off his carb and distrib Carlivar posts
     
  3. carlivar

    carlivar Well-Known Member

    What about the "stage 1" decal on the air cleaner lid? Ever seen that? I figure it was added by a previous owner but now you've got me curious...
     
  4. copperheadgs1

    copperheadgs1 copperheadgs1

    All 70-72 Skylark based Stage-1's had black air cleaner lids. Never a chrome.
     
  5. BOnoP

    BOnoP Well-Known Member

    Someone added that.
    I have seen a chrome air cleaner lid w/stage 1 decal on a riv, I might even still have it in storage, but only one time out of all the cars I molested. I couldn't confirm if it was legit. Although I do remember it being a correct embossed decal, and dark red from age
     
  6. BOnoP

    BOnoP Well-Known Member

    I dont think anyone's disputing the skylark based stage 1's
     
  7. Yardley

    Yardley Club Jackass

    People! Just because some magazine prints words, that doesn't mean it is true. I have volumes of incorrect information in print.

    Erik, those pictures don't show me any Stage1 badges on that 71. And even if they are there, that doesn't mean someone didn't add them.

    As far as the ROA knows (and they have researched this out the wazoo), the 1st badged Stage1 Riviera was the '73. For '70 - '72 you usually (but not always) got the large valve heads with the GS option. The Centurion offered a special engine package that had large valve heads, but I am unsure if the Riv did.

    My guess is that somewhere during the Riv in question's life, someone got a deal on a Stage1 engine and replaced the original 455.

    We need the engine VIN# from that engine to draw any real conclusions. If it is a matching # block, then we need to contact the ROA immediately as this is very special news.

    Keep us posted.
     
  8. leo455

    leo455 LAB MAN

    I thought the 71's had a stage 1 emblem in the grill?
     
  9. flynbuick

    flynbuick Guest

    I think that was 73 or 74.
     
  10. BOnoP

    BOnoP Well-Known Member

    I agree with the 73-4 emblems on the grille, not 71-2, but if your disputing the stage 1 carb, your mistaken. None of my info is from a book, its real life expierence brother.
     
  11. BOnoP

    BOnoP Well-Known Member

    And just to clarify, I never mentioned TS or WS blocks, because I never found one with an actual Stage 1 block ever. But as far as I'm concerned there basically the same with the large valve heads, valve covers, and carb:beers2:
     
  12. 1972 Stage 1

    1972 Stage 1 Well-Known Member

    The distributor shown in the picture he posted is a HEI.

    Post the casting number on the back of the block - maybe that will answer if it is a 71, or possibly a replacement engine.
     
  13. carlivar

    carlivar Well-Known Member

    I already posted the carb part number in my first post. Working on the distributor number. Not finding that part number easily. Took the cap off but didn't have a lot of time, had to leave most sparkplug wires attached so there wasn't much wiggle room.
     
  14. carlivar

    carlivar Well-Known Member

    C'mon guys, please read the whole thread. In my first post I wrote it is a TA code engine. I'll grab the whole engine number tomorrow.
     
  15. BOnoP

    BOnoP Well-Known Member

    The distributor isn't important, as 72 stage 1 pointed out, its not the points type variety. Do the #'s match the VIN ??
     
  16. carlivar

    carlivar Well-Known Member

    Oh by the way, I did get a couple ignition part numbers, if that helps:

    Ignition coil - 1876209
    Ignition module - 1875990
     
  17. carlivar

    carlivar Well-Known Member

    I haven't been able to tell so far. The engine block number is really really hard to make out. My best guess is TA on top and 114 on the bottom, but I think the 114 is partial and maybe wrong. 114 doesn't match the VIN... but until I can scrub the area with the code I don't think I'll know for sure.

    Edit: just realized I was looking at the engine production code, not the S/N. If the serial is on the front of the engine in the same spot between the plugs I can't read it, too rusty. If it's somewhere else let me know and I'll look. Thanks!
     
    Last edited: Sep 4, 2007
  18. Bad Boattail

    Bad Boattail Guest

    Here are some directions to locate the VIN:

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  19. BOnoP

    BOnoP Well-Known Member

    Please do check the #'s

    Maybe we can finally put this myth to rest

    Anyone thinking I have parted that many GS Stage 1 Skylarks and kept the 3 or 4 carbs I still have in storage, is a complete MORON:af:

    Have a nice day
     
  20. Dale

    Dale Sweepspear

    This is an interesting thread.

    Anything is possible.
    You can't always rely on what was written by GM either. In my '70 Assembly manual I have found a few things that don't match up with how my '70 was actually produced.

    In this case, if this car has a '71 engine, wouldn't it have been set up with the air pump? The intake and the power steering pump bracket both appear to not have the provisions for it.
    Or did that start in '72?
    The HEI, that could have been added at anytime, not an uncommon change.
     

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