First time doing it. Remember a thread a while back on this. Know how to locate center of carb onto hood. Looking for somewhere to buy the plexiglass baseplate and foam? Is it best to have the air cleaner stick up through the hood into the scoop or under the hood with a K&N open element filter/lid? What diameter filter and hole? Car will be street driven. Any problems with function in the rain? Thanks for looking.
Hi, I was the one who did the posts and had the lexan plates done. Gary Kubich is the one who is making the lexan plates. The foam I got at a craft store. I got 4" dense foam because that's what worked for me. Little hint: Use an electric knife from the kitchen to cut the foam. Does a great job. Here are the links to the threads. You can PM me if you have any other questions. http://www.v8buick.com/showthread.php?t=38760&highlight=stage http://www.v8buick.com/showthread.php?t=32945&highlight=stage
Bob, As far as where to "buy" a base and foam, most are homemade, as everyone does their own Ram Air system designs differently! :TU: I've had 3 Stage II hoodscoops on different cars, and I really like how they Look! :bglasses: During a rainstorm, or even a Car Wash, I've had water go right into the scoop, and the car either hesitated during acceleration and/or stalled out! :Smarty: o No: My advice to you, don't drive it in the rain, and don't wash it, ever again! :laugh: Good Luck, and Post Pics after you install it! :bglasses:
When I have mine on the trailer or wash it I plug the scoop with a few old towels folded up to about the right size then I put them into a heavy garbage bag and a couple wraps of electrical tape to hold it together. I just gently push it into the front of the scoop to fill the hole. It looks kind of crude but works to keep water out. Won't work on the street though. I don't know what would work in the rain if anything. Maybe some soft foam so the air can get through but stop alot of the rain, in a light rain anyway? I normaly only drive mine on nice days so I have not had to drive it in the rain. When I cut the hole in mine the hood was not painted so I put a long stud in the carb [long enough to hit the hood when closed] so it left a mark on the inside of the hood to know where to center the hole. I then marked the hood and cut the hole with a jigsaw. Not some of my better work but it turned out ok. Tom
hey Bob, good luck on the scoop, its easier than it appears. Heck I even put one together, and I'm a big dope. As for the rain, we have a couch cushinwe stuff in there when we're pulling the wagon on the trailer so birds and what not dont go flying in there, donno if would be effective in the rain though. Here's the link to my step by step hacking of a perfectly good Skylark hood :eek2: http://www.v8buick.com/showthread.php?t=56667 It was easy, just measure thrise and cut once :laugh: D.
Anyone know of any quality issues with any of the available scoops? Do they all have the inside lip for mounting purposes, or are any different? I plan to add one in the NEAR future and am just curious. The links in the previous posts are great and have made me a little anxious to do this. :Brow:
What I think would be cool is to fabricate your own in steel, and weld it onto your hood, like the Original Stage II scoop was! I prefer the Poston Enterprises Stage II scoop, as it seems to be more solid. Some of the other companies that offer it use metal "clips" to mount it, and I don't think they're very sturdy. You might consider a VFN Fiberglass Flat Skylark hood with a Stage II scoop, all as one piece, Bolt On! :Brow: Better advantages, in my opinion: As one piece, there is no air escape between the Hood and the Hoodscoop, like there is with a Fiberglass scoop on a Metal Hood. That gives it a more True Ram Air function, as well as appearance! :bglasses: Fiberglass weighs less, anyway, than your steel hood. I really like the Stage II scoops, always have! Just depends if you want it for Looks or for Function, as to which one to buy and install. o No: :TU:
That is being considered. The pricetag is a little high. :shock: But you have to pay for quality. Will prolly go with the Poston unit......for now. :Brow:
Mine was from Poston's and I was happy with it. Another tip: after you cut the hole and you're trying to hold the scoop in place to drill the holes for the screws, use the big black office clips. Two on each side and they hold it down great.
stage 2 scoop Thanks for the info guys. Still need to know if its better to run the air cleaner up into the scoop or keep it under the hood?
Bob, we have a 4" filter with an extreme lid & it sticks up about an inch above the hood line. The car really likes it that way :Brow: :3gears: D.
I have a 5" air cleaner on mine as high into the scoop as it will go, a 6" won't fit with the base I made.
I am installing mine this weekend ,that is if my brother finishes my carb pan.i will be running somewhat of a different setup.i got a 350 and putting on a 2inch spacer(on ta intake),1/2 air cleaner riser(so i clear top of holley),custom carb pan,then 10inch round and 3.5 tall cleaner w/buick lid.plus im thinking of some kind of screening in front.should fit perfect if math is right(all of air cleaner will be exposed.will post pics when done.plus i will be cutting my hole out just like BUICKSTAGE1.
Another hint I forgot to mention: Use a RotoZip or other cutoff wheel tool, to cut the hole rather than a jig saw. It makes a beautiful, clean cut.