starter issues

Discussion in 'Street/strip 400/430/455' started by lifeat26psi, Aug 13, 2006.

  1. lifeat26psi

    lifeat26psi Well-Known Member

    i checked the ignition fuse, it seemed to be fine, is there another fuse i should be worried about?
    i also checked all my grounds, everything that i took off the car has been put back on the car, i have one other route to go by, that my friend reminded me of last night. My steering column is kind of glitch, and might have something messed up with the ignition somewhere in there, my dash lights go on when i turn the key, but nothing else happens whatsoever, no clicking or anything. Another thing, my temp gauge goes all the way to 'h' when i try to start it, and another gauge does something too, is that normal?
     
  2. tlivingd

    tlivingd BIG BLOCK, THE ANTI PRIUS

    sounds like it could be pulling a ground thru the sending units. Do you have a cable from somewhere on the block to the frame or firewall? they are very important. your engine and transmission are supported by rubber. Without this ground it won't start.
     
  3. lifeat26psi

    lifeat26psi Well-Known Member

    Update: nothing, i was at work for the last 12 hours.

    Tomorrow i get out at 5 and I wage war against all that is metal. will update then, i have a couple plans up my sleeve.
     
  4. GRIMM

    GRIMM Well-Known Member

    this is a question, but i think it might help you out.

    is there any way he can run wires straight to the starter to make it so he can crank it without the keys, kind of like hotwiring it?

    that way he can know that his starter and solenoid are/arent working.
     
  5. lifeat26psi

    lifeat26psi Well-Known Member

    tis a good idea, i did bring the starter to pep boys though and they checked both the starter and the solenoid, so im confident that isnt the issue, its getting caught up somewhere before that, there is a wire that isnt doing its job somewhere and i think i know where it is, in my steering column.
     
  6. Buick

    Buick Ramin Ansari

    Neutral safety switch?
     
  7. lifeat26psi

    lifeat26psi Well-Known Member

    huh?
    explain.
     
  8. Buick

    Buick Ramin Ansari

    Sorry 'bout that. There is a switch that doesn't allow the car to start in gear, only in Park or Neutral. Maybe it's out of whack and may explain the funky starting/column issues you described. Just a guess. Good luck.
     
  9. lifeat26psi

    lifeat26psi Well-Known Member

    very possible....good call.
     
  10. lifeat26psi

    lifeat26psi Well-Known Member

    6769RIV, clear out ur pm's....lol...
     
  11. Neutral Safety Switch

    Done - you should be able to write back.

    Concur the neutral safety switch is a prime suspect at this point. Not a difficult adjustment, although there will be some underdash contortion and neck-craning involved.

    An easy way to narrow it down might be to use a remote starter switch (believe you can buy these at NAPA, Autozone, Pep Girls, etc...) and bypass the ignition switch altogether. Basically, it runs battery juice to the solenoid directly and puts the squeeze trigger in your hand.

    Even if you don't find the problem, you could use it to get the car started in time to win that bet. Just keep the leads clear of rotating machinery and you're on your way! :3gears:
     
  12. 65specialconver

    65specialconver kennedy-bell MIA

    if you got the 2 small wires reversed on the solenoid,it wont do nuthin :error:
    with power to the battery term(big 'un)jump to the small terminal marked "S"(switch)you can use a jumper-wire or just bridge it w/screwdriver & it should crank.the "S" term is the one on the side with the opening on the housing.if your under the car BE CAREFULL-PULL THE COIL WIRE SO IT WILL CRANK BUT NOT START.
     
  13. lifeat26psi

    lifeat26psi Well-Known Member

    i actually think i might die if i try your plan...
     
  14. Basically the same plan - mine just involved expending $12.95 or so on a remote starter switch, which does what he mentioned, minus the screwdriver component. This way you can stand away from the car, turn away from it, cover your head and wince while squeezing the trigger as the car starts. :eek2:
     
  15. Exactly my point. Basically, you're "hotwiring" the car, although it won't start unless you have the key switched to the "on" position, or you've hotwired power to the positive side of the coil as well. :Brow:
     
  16. lifeat26psi

    lifeat26psi Well-Known Member

    i tried pulling my steering wheel off yesterday and failed miserably, and i learned this as i turned through year 1's catalog to find a 'steering wheel removal tool' and i did one of these: :Dou:

    im probably gonna go to pep boys or sears and pick one of these up, i do need them to get to my ignition components correct?
     
  17. Have you checked the neutral safety switch yet? Before you go ahead and tear into the steering column check that out, along with the solenoid per the above. Unless this has been torn open before, or sustained some kind of fire damage, I wouldn't think this to be a likely source. Recommend verify one last time the wiring and solenoid, then the neutral safety switch, then the ignition switch itself.

    Good luck! :TU:
     
  18. GRIMM

    GRIMM Well-Known Member

    Does the neutral safety switch work off the gear indicator?

    if so, mine isnt doing anything, all i see is P all the time. Any idea how i would fiw this to make it move again?

    PM me, i dont want to confuse by hijacking this thread.


    Yeah, i think you should start by ruling out the simple first.

    Make sure all the wirings in the right post.

    If you have a multimeter you could use it to check how far the power is making it and where it stops on its path to the starter.
     
  19. lifeat26psi

    lifeat26psi Well-Known Member

    good call on the multimeter, i was thinking about getting one, probably the smart route at this point.

    the neutral safety switch, where is that, next to the transmission?

    oh and grimm, hijack away, there is not much help left for me.... :(
     
  20. DaWildcat

    DaWildcat Platinum Level Contributor

    The neutral safety switch is attached to the steering column under the dash. Do you have a chassis manual?

    Devon
     

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