starter keeps breaking..help

Discussion in 'Street/strip 400/430/455' started by leadsled01, May 17, 2008.

  1. leadsled01

    leadsled01 Well-Known Member

    Flex plate and flywheel is the same thing, correct me if I'm wrong? Jerry
     
  2. leadsled01

    leadsled01 Well-Known Member

    Awesome, you rock!! But it doesn't show how it connects to the block. I'll take a closer look it should be pretty obvious. Jerry
     
  3. DaWildcat

    DaWildcat Platinum Level Contributor

    Just terminology.

    Flexplate: automatic transmission
    Flywheel: manual transmission

    Regarding the mounting of the bracket to the block, it's just another hex bolt. I'll see if I can find another photo.

    Devon
     
  4. DaWildcat

    DaWildcat Platinum Level Contributor

  5. DaWildcat

    DaWildcat Platinum Level Contributor

    Thought I had one more pic showing installed position. Sorry - no luck finding more at the moment.

    Devon
     
  6. leadsled01

    leadsled01 Well-Known Member

    Thanks , really appreciate your efforts. Jerry
     
  7. whamo

    whamo 454 71 skylark custom

    I dont think that bracket, or lack of it, is causing your problem. Its either alignment, too much advance or a failed flywheel.
     
  8. leadsled01

    leadsled01 Well-Known Member

    I agree, and will look at it better in the next few days. Although I am going to install the bracket to make sure.
     
  9. leadsled01

    leadsled01 Well-Known Member

    I inspected the flywheel and its not cracked or damaged, infact I believe its been replaced recently due to the condition. I'm considering one of those high torque starters from Summit Racing for $150, it has a 90 warranty. Do you think this starter would hold up??? Any advice is greatly appreciated. Jerry
     
  10. raresun

    raresun Well-Known Member

    I had then same problem and installed a Power Master high torque starter and broke that too! Save your money and adjust the timing first.
     
  11. leadsled01

    leadsled01 Well-Known Member

    Wow, I did retard the timing and still broke the rebuilt starter. I guess I will try the "L" bracket next. Jerry
     
  12. Madcat455

    Madcat455 Need..more... AMMO!!!

    Did you get the timing down to 12 initial?? and it still broke:shock:
     
  13. whamo

    whamo 454 71 skylark custom

    You need to determine exactly how much initial timing you have.....
     
  14. silvergs72

    silvergs72 silvergs

    Guys

    I will just throw this into the mix. I had this problem years ago on one of my builds. BUT the motor turned over slow and it just took one misfire and BANG there goes the starter nose. The way I fixed it was to put the large battery cables with the high cranking amp battery in it and the problem went away!!!:TU:

    If the motor won't spin fast enough you will break the nose cone.

    Good luck and keep us informed.

    Mike
     
  15. leadsled01

    leadsled01 Well-Known Member

    Not sure what the actual degree was. I just spun the distributor alittle bit.
    Going to work out the details after the holiday.
    Thanks, after I work out all the timing stuff, I will try that. Jerry
     
  16. leadsled01

    leadsled01 Well-Known Member

    I spoke to Tim today and ordered my "L" bracket. Said these starters are breaking at an alarming rate and has sold a bunch of them, only a few more left he said. Plans are to check and recheck my timing and replace the cap ,rotor,plugs and wires, install "L" bracket drink a beer and try it again. I'll keep you posted. Jerry
     
  17. leadsled01

    leadsled01 Well-Known Member

    ALRIGHT, today I tried to install the "L" bracket onto my starter and their is no threaded hole that lines up on the starter for my "L" bracket to attach. wtf !!!! Getting really pissed off now. Please excuse my language, but I guy can only take so much... I went back to the parts store where I bought the starter and they swear its the correct rebuilt starter and even showed me a picture of a new starter that also does not have the threaded hole in it. Anybody shed some light on this??? Jerry
     
  18. whamo

    whamo 454 71 skylark custom

    I believe I bought a replacment starter and it didnt have the hole either. I just shelved the bracket. I haven't had a starter problem though.
     
  19. SS-TRUCK

    SS-TRUCK Stage 1 X

    Ok , there is not a threaded hole in the starter for that bracket . The top through bolt that holds the starter together has a threaded section extending from the hex that tightens against the starter end cap and that is where the bracket goes . Install the bracket on the stud area and put a nut on there to hold it and a bolt into the block .
     
  20. whamo

    whamo 454 71 skylark custom

    Maybe some do, but mine, and the one depicted in the post, bolts to the side of the starter housing, not to the end cap. The replacement starter I bought from the local parts store did not have the threaded provision either. I do have the original starter at home that has the threaded hole in the side, but its no where near the end cap.

    see in this link

    http://www.v8buick.com/attachment.ph...8&d=1152228298

     

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