Stock Valves or Stage 1?

Discussion in 'Street/strip 400/430/455' started by Vic Winter, Jan 4, 2004.

  1. Vic Winter

    Vic Winter Member

    I need a little help. I plan to rebuild my 455 before spring. And do I spend the money to convert my heads to stage 1 or keep the smaller valves? My 455 is a 72 I have Hyper 30 over pistons and I will deck the block to get 10 to 1 out of it. I will be running a crane cane #850631. I would like to get 400+ Hp with a 200-4R, and 3.55 gears.

    lift @ valve
    464 in
    480 ex
    1.6 rockers

    cam timing @ .050
    intake
    8 BTDC
    38 ABDC
    exhaust
    52 BBDC
    2 ATDC

    duration
    226 in
    234 ex

    Thanks for any input.
    Vic
     
  2. 71GS455

    71GS455 Best Package Wins!

    Vic,

    What rockers are you running? If you have the 72 rockers, then the ratio is 1.55:1

    The lift would become around
    .450
    .465
    if I did my division/multiplication correct.
     
  3. Vic Winter

    Vic Winter Member

    I will be running 1.6 rockers.

    Thanks
    Vic
     
  4. Jim Weise

    Jim Weise EFI/DIS 482

    Street/Strip port the heads, replace valves as required..

    Best bang for the buck.

    JW
     
  5. KELLY SONNABEND

    KELLY SONNABEND Well-Known Member

    JIM would doing a 3 angle valve job help to on those heads,lets say with a 118cam????
     
  6. Yardley

    Yardley Club Jackass

    Hey Vic,

    One thing a lot of people overlook when decking the block and milling the heads is to check the pushrod length. Not sure how much excess depressing a lifter can take before it either bottoms out or fails.

    Might be worthwhile to buy one or two adjustables from TA and confirm the length. The cost of a couple pushrods is pretty cheap insurance.
     
  7. Jim Weise

    Jim Weise EFI/DIS 482

    Sure Kelly,

    A good valve job is a major component of a street-strip port job, and will improve any cylinder head.

    JW
     
  8. KELLY SONNABEND

    KELLY SONNABEND Well-Known Member

    VIC. with those heads worked over, and that 226 duration cam with 10 to 1 commpression you should be able to get 400+, i would think even threw manifolds, thats if you have a free flowing exhaust, and everything was set up right
     
  9. Bobb Makley

    Bobb Makley Well-Known Member

    I agree with Jim on this one if you are working on a budget and you have the choice of converting to stage 1's with no port work or porting stock valve heads you will be further ahead to port the small valve head. Stock stage one will flow between 218 and 226 on my bench most are closer to 220. I did a basic street strip set for a guy here in Michigan and used his stock valves and we ended up at 248 and had good low lift numbers. We did back cut the stock valves and but a 3 angle VJ on them. The valve job was nothing exotic Standard Street set up. I would definitely port the stock heads.
     

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