The latest on Hydrogen power

Discussion in 'The Bench' started by Captain Mark, Feb 25, 2004.

  1. Captain Mark

    Captain Mark Well-Known Member

  2. Dan Healey

    Dan Healey Well-Known Member

    So there is some progress.

    I'm glad to see the direction they are taking, because there was NO way I would ever consider it in gas or liquid form.

    I'd pay $5,000 for the conversion, but $15,000, not in my life time (unless I hit the loto)! Oh that's right, I don't buy those tickets.:laugh:
     
  3. Captain Mark

    Captain Mark Well-Known Member

    700 miles between refills sounds pretty good.
     
  4. Ken Mild

    Ken Mild King of 18 Year Resto's

    VERY interesting. I'm for this technology as long as it doesn't sacrifice performance. :Brow:

    Looks like the initial startup costs for the end user are going to be the biggest obstacle along with the convenience factor. Those tanks are going to need to be smaller though, I think that is going to turn a lot of people off.

    On the positive side, I think the fact that you can use the existing engine and still use gas if needed is a really good selling point because it gives the psychological impression (hopefully true) that you will not have a 10 mph golf cart performance wise. People don't want to completely give up the quality of the transportation they have grown used to over the past 100 years for anything that will sacrifice what they are used to.

    I would be interested to see the details of how the engine internals (long term) will be affected by the constant fuel switch overs and what that does to the service life of various parts of the engine.

    Plus, good luck trying to instate this technology in the face of large oil companies. :error:
     
  5. Freedster

    Freedster Registered User (2002)

    I think a "sneaky" hydrogen system for passing emissions tests would sell well...

    - Freed
     
  6. mechacode

    mechacode Well-Known Member

    $15k for 700 miles on each tank, never have to buy gas again and keeping the same performance levels as with high octane gas? If only I had the $15k..
     
  7. Freedster

    Freedster Registered User (2002)

    You could do the same thing with Compressed Natural Gas. CNG has an octane over 100 and burns super clean. So clean that oil in a CNG engine looks like clear light honey at 10k miles. As a bonus, for that same $15k you could not only get the car converted but you could also get a slow-fill compressor that could fill your tank at your house overnight. It's a lot cheaper than Hydrogen too. But, like every other alternative fuel out there, you can't get CNG on every streetcorner, so it doesn't sell.

    :Do No:

    If I lived closer to California, I would probably have bought a used Bi-fuel CNG/Gasoline truck when I saw one for sale last year. I just didn't like the idea of a trip from LA to KC in a vehicle I just bought. Neat how it worked though. It was originally a TPI 4.3l S-10 that ran the CNG through a throttle body unit on top of the intake. Since it had parallel fuel systems, you could switch between them on the fly.

    - Freed
     
  8. mechacode

    mechacode Well-Known Member

    I can't wait for that E-85 stuff to hit the upper midwest. High octane (I think it's 108) and it's cheaper than regular gas (ex. $1.50 a gallon regular gas, 80c for a gallon of this stuff). It still uses a little bit of regular gas but the rest is supposed to be alcohol from corn and other grains.
     

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