thinking fuel injection

Discussion in 'High Tech for Old Iron' started by bigjimmyl, Nov 8, 2014.

  1. bigjimmyl

    bigjimmyl Well-Known Member

    anyone use the TA performance setup? any pointers?
     
  2. TheSilverBuick

    TheSilverBuick In the Middle of No Where

    I use their converted SPX intake from their kit. I just called and asked if they'd make just the intake for me and they said yes. Its a nice piece. I just got the intake and fuel rails. I supplied the throttlebody, injectors, wires, and ECU.

    Bought it in 2008 or 2009.
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    This is an old picture and I've changed around the lines and regulator a bit, but its essentially the same.
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  3. afracer

    afracer Well-Known Member

    I wish there was more info on the TA setup too. What ecu is used? Is it fuel control only? Is it e85 and boost friendly? What size injectors and fuel pump does it come with?
     
  4. bigjimmyl

    bigjimmyl Well-Known Member

    Well just to pass on the info, I called TA and they directed me to Imagine injection, who builds and supplies their system. Spoke to Bob, who is the head honcho and the system seem pretty user friendly, self tuning so no dyno time needed, didn't as any of those other questions but thy use a proprietary system of they're own design. sounds good I think I'm jumping in ill let you know how I turns out
     
  5. bigjimmyl

    bigjimmyl Well-Known Member

    was it cheaper that way?

     
  6. TheSilverBuick

    TheSilverBuick In the Middle of No Where

    Granted this was in 2008-09 so there has to be some accounting for inflation, but they just charged me for the intake manifold, which wasn't cheap, but I wanted to use my own system (MegaSquirt). IIRC, the price was around $800 for just the manifold (may of been $600?, I really don't recall other than it being a hefty price over just the manifold cost, never hurts to ask!).

    Looking at their PDF catalog today, the full EFI system is $3750.

    Assuming the SPX manifold is now $1,000 (unmodified new is $370, and it appears they offer conversions now for different manifolds, SPX was the only option at the time I purchased), generic injectors from summit will run $450'ish, a megasquirt 2 assembled will run $435 (or $279 unassembled, I did unassembled), then another $120 in wiring, $85-$150 for a good fuel pump, $130 for a fuel pump regulator, $190 for WBO2 sensor/controller and $390 for the throttle body and I yanked the air and coolant temp sensors from the junkyard from mid-90's GM cars. The total of part prices I listed there is $2,870. Plus the cost of an EFI fuel filter of your choice. I use ~$15 OEM EFI filters I can pick up at any parts store. I'm sure there are some miscellaneous fittings and connector costs, but a decent over estimation of say a $100 would cover those type of things.

    The manifold may be cheaper than $1,000, you could assemble the MS yourself (or step up to MS3 and assemble yourself), the wiring may actually be half what I quoted going with the simple batch fire MS2. Given the TA Performance system does not have a crank and cam sensor says it is a batch fire system, which nothing is wrong with that at all, I'm just comparing apples to apples on the EFI fueling. There are several areas you may be able to save costs, like finding a deal or making your own throttle body, assembling your own megasquirt, the actual costs of fittings and connectors could less, etc.

    And mind you, what I am quoting in the above requires plenty of "Do it yourself" work. It is not a plug and play kit system. Also, both systems will require fuel line modifications and possibly fuel tank modifications to keep fuel starvation at bay, etc. But since both systems require the changes I consider that a push in costs and didn't list them.
     
  7. supremeefi

    supremeefi supremeefi

    You might want to find a customer two of his and ask them how they feel about his system. See if you can download their software as well. That'll tell you a lot about the capabilities of their system.
     

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