This makes me roll my eyes

Discussion in 'The Bench' started by Mark Demko, Dec 19, 2023.

  1. Mark Demko

    Mark Demko Well-Known Member

  2. John Codman

    John Codman Platinum Level Contributor

    And this is a surprise?
     
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  3. hugger

    hugger Well-Known Member

    Yea common sense is affecting some......maybe they vaccine wasn't a bad idea haha
     
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  4. hugger

    hugger Well-Known Member

    They still hard at work at the New BMW battery plant here in Spartanburg........gonna be a big empty building in a few years ha
     
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  5. Mark Demko

    Mark Demko Well-Known Member

    Seems like it was a panic decision :rolleyes:
     
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  6. hugger

    hugger Well-Known Member

    I actually have no issues with municipalities using them....why not....but that's about where it stops for me
     
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  7. Mark Demko

    Mark Demko Well-Known Member

    Yep, a big fart in a windstorm
     
  8. hugger

    hugger Well-Known Member

    Government panic??!!....nah not ours.....oh wait
     
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  9. hugger

    hugger Well-Known Member

    Toyota is on a viable path with hydrogen....imo
     
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  10. SP4SPD

    SP4SPD Slideways in the streets!

    I worked at an R&D center for Toyota for a few years. It seems like they are looking at Hydrogen and Hybrid technologies for the near future.
    They had a prototype single cylinder engine in one of the dyno rooms that was running a generator for a hybrid battery system. I think that even with that load on it at WOT it was using less than a liter per hour! It seems like that would be a better alternative than a full EV.
    Compare that to a 5.7 liter V8 that was using 150+ lph at WOT.
     
  11. hugger

    hugger Well-Known Member

    I've always wondered why you cant put generators on each wheel......with an initial charge for full EV or get goin with gas the switch on the fly once it builds the reserve to power the electric engine so it charges itself....what makes this impossible from an engineering standpoint? I don't get it....cuz I was thinking of this in muddle school
     
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  12. 73 Stage-1

    73 Stage-1 Dave

    There are already generators on each wheel as an integral part of the motor system. When the motors aren't acting as motors, they turn onto generators, but the efficiency isn't there to fully charge the batteries - while also draining them at the same time. But on a gas/electric hybrid, you can certainly add to the battery charge with efficient driving and regenerative braking. Some cars have a mode to help direct more energy to the batteries, but at the cost of a little less fuel economy.
     
  13. 73 Stage-1

    73 Stage-1 Dave

    Don't count electric mobility dead yet - this is significant news.

    Volkswagen, Audi, Porsche and Scout Motors brands to implement the North American Charging Standard (Tesla's) in future electric vehicles

    Future Volkswagen, Audi, Porsche and Scout electric vehicles to use the North American Charging Standard (NACS) charging port, starting in 2025
    Volkswagen, Porsche, and Audi are exploring adapter solutions for existing vehicles to access the Tesla Supercharger network, starting in 2025
    Scout Motors customers will be able to access the Tesla network once its vehicles go on sale

    Agreement intended to expand customer charging access to more than 15,000 Superchargers

    Volkswagen, Audi, Porsche and Scout Motors today announced planned implementation of the North American Charging Standard (NACS) for future products in the North American region, beginning in 2025. To enable existing customers with a Combined Charging System (CCS) charging port to access the Tesla Supercharger network—which would greatly expand charging provider choice—the brands are exploring adapter solutions for existing vehicles. This has the potential to expand customer charging access to more than 15,000 Superchargers. This is in addition to the more than 3,800 DC fast charging outlets currently in operation by Electrify America and Electrify Canada.
     
  14. CJay

    CJay Supercar owner Staff Member

    Honestly, they should look into turbines again. You can feed a turbine engine anything that is combustible.
     
  15. pbr400

    pbr400 68GS400

    That won’t work with the current crowd.
    Just remember: Combustion=Bad. Nuclear=Bad. Electric=Good. Don’t make them send you to re-education camp.
    Patrick
     
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  16. 2manybuicks

    2manybuicks Founders Club Member

    Turbines are too bloody inefficient.
     
  17. CJay

    CJay Supercar owner Staff Member

    The final iterations in the 60s were getting in the 20s for mileage. You would think after 60 years, we may have the technology to get thrm even more efficient. Unless we sold that technology too to China for a $1
     
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  18. Mike Trom

    Mike Trom Platinum Level Contributor

    The Government will legislate the necessity of Electric cars for all of us, don't worry. :rolleyes: I am not against EV's, its just we are not ready for them to replace ICE yet and you can't force it.

    We have a huge Tesla plant here in Buffalo that cost the taxpayers big $ to help build. They were supposed to make Solar panels and that factory never came close to making its full potential. They are finding out now what a waste of taxpayer money that investment was.

    Wall Street Journal story headline:
    New York State Built Elon Musk a $1 Billion Factory. ‘It Was a Bad Deal.’
    New Tesla facility in Buffalo was supposed to house a huge solar-panel operation, but the project hasn’t turned out as planned.
     
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  19. Briz

    Briz Founders Club Member

    Read that some dealers are all but giving away EV's to get them off the lot. Dealers are over stocked on EV's and consumers are not buying. Believe the example they used was the Ford F150 EV for 7000$ brand new out the door after discounts and incentives.
     
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  20. Fred Hickey

    Fred Hickey Founders Club Member

    The Subsidy checks probably stopped clearing.
     
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