Tomorrow is Blast Off day- wish me luck

Discussion in 'Street/strip 400/430/455' started by 462CID, Jul 30, 2005.

  1. 462CID

    462CID Buick newbie since '89

    Tomorrow afternoon I shoud be firing up my engine. I've done everything I could think of to quiet that tick in the top end-

    removed, cleaned lifters
    new pushrods
    re-set all valve adjustments
    Royal Purple 10W 40 instead of Mobil 1 10W 30

    I also installed the new TA Stage 1 fuel pump, new Taylor wires, drained the cooling system, new coolant with water wetter, re-routed my heater hoses so i can get the passenger valve cover off easily, sandblasted and cleaned the covers and intake, cleaned the carb, and then used engine break-in lube on everything I could reach, like under all the lifters, on the cam lobes, on the new pushrod ends, etc.

    I can't think of any bases I haven't covered

    Also gonna have a bottle of Marvel Mystery oil on hand if it needs a shove in the right direction

    Wish me luck! The Riv needs new struts, so it's time to wrap up the '70 and do maintenance on the '97 :TU:
     
  2. Joe Kelsch

    Joe Kelsch Eat Mo' Rats

     
  3. StreetStrip

    StreetStrip Well-Known Member

    Break a rod.
     
  4. leo455

    leo455 LAB MAN

    I've got a ? on the fuel pump. First are you using a double roller chain? and are the ta pumps offset,on the arm, to miss the double roller chain? If not the arm of the pump will hit the chain. You can elongate the pump holes horizontaly to move the pump out. I think the new covers are made so there is no interference. Just wondering! OH Good Luck!
     
  5. 462CID

    462CID Buick newbie since '89

    I'm using the TA cover and a new double roller. I don't know about pump arm offset- I didn't think to compare them. I might take it back off and see, that's a very good question, and it's probably worth knowing

    After my oil filter adventure last year, I broke the piggy bank and got all sorts of new and expensive goodies to control oiling. First was a pressure gauge!

    I'm gonna hop in the shower, and get up to the shop. I have an outside chance of drivign the car home today, but this week sometime is almost definite
     
  6. Billy

    Billy Well-Known Member

    Motor ticking.

    Every thing you did sounds ok and it should be fine. Good luck on the start up. :TU:
     
  7. Jay71Skylark

    Jay71Skylark Well-Known Member

    Good luck! Anxious to hear the results!!

    :TU:

    Jay
     
  8. BillMah52

    BillMah52 Well-Known Member

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    No matter what happens Chris - keep smiling. If you wanted a silent ride you would be driving a Cadi. :)
     
  9. 462CID

    462CID Buick newbie since '89

    Nah, this engine has honestly always been so quiet at idle you can hear a normal conversation over the headers with the hood open. I don't put up with a noisy engine. Folks don't believe I have headers until I open the hood


    A mysterious coolant leak sidelined the countdown yesterday. Took four hours to locate and repair. Turned out to be a pinhole type leak in a heater hose that was perfectly dripping on the edge of the head at the gasket, making it look like a head gasket. Luckily I refused to beleive it really was the head and didn't rip it apart. But man was that frustrating, I thought I'd found it three or four times. It took another hour and a half to clean up the mess. With my fuel pump removal and re-installation, that works out to 5.5 hours and all I actually accomplished was installing a fuel pump

    But, I did compare the old type pump to the new TA Stage 1 pump. Pump arms look identically shaped.
     
  10. Iceman8.6

    Iceman8.6 Well-Known Member

    The fuel pump arm is the same. Its the 2 bolt holes drilled into the TA timing cover for the fuel pump thats moved forward compared to the stock timing cover.
     
  11. 462CID

    462CID Buick newbie since '89

    Yes, I know :)

    I wasn't worried about fit on my car. I was interested in the info in case it was useful for some one else :TU:
     
  12. Oklahoma!

    Oklahoma! Well-Known Member

    Good luck, Chris!

    We're pullin' for ya. :)
     
  13. leo455

    leo455 LAB MAN

    Man I was up for ya and a coolant leak !! AH! But I got to hand it to you, you have been in it for the long haul. I also hope some else reads about the fuel pump arm and double roler chains set-up. Cost me a extra day to fix it on a regular cover. Good Luck! Man I am glad you don't own a wind-up alarm clock, TICK TICK TICK!
     
  14. CJay

    CJay Supercar owner Staff Member

    Is that a fact?? I refered to the T/A site and found no mention of it in the timing cover section. The lovely Virginia at T/A directed me to Rick in tech support, and he couldnt confirm it. Just curious where you got that info from.
     
  15. 462CID

    462CID Buick newbie since '89


    Well, TA adverstises it that way...or at least they did when i bought mine

    In my experience, I can tell you that the stock pump arm doesn't hit. I installed a new TA Timing cover and high performance oil pump assembly last October. I installeld the only fuel pump I could get at the time, which was the stock pump. I ran that car several hours chasing down little noises and bugs, then drove it for an hour and a half in traffic to bring it up to storage. then the car was started weekly in storage all winter

    I removed that stock pump on Friday? Thursday? I forget, it was late last week anyway. Exactly zero wear on the pump arm, no marks from the timing chain (I know what that looks like, I've had double rollers hit the arm). Conclusion- the timing cover is made in a way that eliminates the issue :TU:
     
  16. 462CID

    462CID Buick newbie since '89

    You can't let the car win, Leo! Gotta stick it out:laugh:
     
  17. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member


    Jason,
    I saw Mike at the GS Nats shortly after buying and installing my TA cover. I questioned him about the fuel pump mounting. His response was that was one thing he overlooked when the new cover was designed. I'm not sure whether he ever fixed that oversight in the next run of covers, but I've never seen it advertised that way. Just to be safe, I moved my pump foward about a 1/16"
     
  18. CJay

    CJay Supercar owner Staff Member

    Rick told me to drill out the fuel pump holes to the next drill bit size just to be safe. Sounded like a better idea than the file method
     
  19. Smartin

    Smartin antiqueautomotiveservice.com Staff Member

    Let 'er RIP!!:beer
     
  20. 462CID

    462CID Buick newbie since '89

    Did you talk to him this year, Larry? I am 100% certain I saw them advertised this way. If they (the holes) aren't moved forward, do you think it's just because everything is new and fresh, that I'm not hitting the pump arm with the chain? I definitely have no contact to the pump arm as of right now. On my fresh complete rebuild in '99 I did have immediate pump arm wear
     

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