Township is cutting down my 160 year old red Oak.

Discussion in 'The Bench' started by scubasteve455, Aug 9, 2019.

  1. scubasteve455

    scubasteve455 Well-Known Member

    OK me and my neighbors have well water. My neighbor has no water in well in August. And September. Water table to low. My well NEVER goes dry ever. The neighbors want city water. The township says in order to bring water in. My tree needs cut down. I called them and said why can’t you run the line on the opposite side of the road. They say there is a Gas line . On that side they can’t do it. I told him. This tree was in the middle of a cornfield in 1950. How can you do this. He says he has no options. Anyone in this situation???
     
  2. scubasteve455

    scubasteve455 Well-Known Member

    I live on the opposite side of road . From my neighbors. They need the water.
     
  3. scubasteve455

    scubasteve455 Well-Known Member

    My wife says if they cut it down . For sale Sign goes up. I’ve lived here for 35 years.
     
  4. Bens99gtp

    Bens99gtp Well-Known Member

    Sounds like your neighbor needs to dig the well deeper.

    I own a house that has city sewer but no city water. It's now a rental home, butvwasbt when I bought it. It was listed as city sewer and water, but all the plumbing but the main pipes was gone when I bought the home from the bank on repo. I had the house inspected even, my surprise when I put the end plumbing back in and had no water only to find I had a well.
    To the main point of the story,after doing homework I found the reason no city water was the entire road.......all the properties that were to be serviced had to agree to get it, 2 ppl on the road did bot want city water........so rather than leave them without, no one got water.

    Maybe it will work the same way.

    I'm sure having an existing well dug deeper would be alot less money in the long run than the assessment to taxes to pay the city.

    Maybe because of age of tree you can find some protection clause in the ordinances.
     
  5. scubasteve455

    scubasteve455 Well-Known Member

    well they got a grant to pay for it. They only pay tap in fee $8’000
     
  6. scubasteve455

    scubasteve455 Well-Known Member

    I think i’m screwed
     
  7. Nailhead Ronnie

    Nailhead Ronnie Life's 2 Short. Live like it.

    Chain your self to the tree, make america great again
     
  8. BYoung

    BYoung Stage me

    Make some noise to the local TV affiliates. No one wants a healthy oak tree removed. Your predicament would surely make a nice story and possibly pressure the Township to back off.
     
  9. bill lagna

    bill lagna Well-Known Member

    The contract0r can tunnel under the roots or hand dig in that area !!!!
    Not that big of a deal if your the guy across the street kicks in a little extra money .
    You both win !
    Bill
     
  10. 436'd Skylark

    436'd Skylark Sweet Fancy Moses!!!!!

    Is it on your property or in the right of way?
     
  11. faster

    faster Well-Known Member

    I feel for you. Surely there is a way "around" it.

    Mikey
     
  12. Bens99gtp

    Bens99gtp Well-Known Member

    8000 tap in fee, 2500 to deepen a well with new bigger hp pump????? Seems right
     
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  13. hugger

    hugger Well-Known Member

    If it's on the rite of way which is usually 20ft from the center line of the road you have no say in what they do
     
  14. JESUPERCAT

    JESUPERCAT No Slow Boat

    Punch the well deeper.
    Will you be forced to have municipal water if it is on your street?
    As Bill said they can put the water in under the tree, they do it around here all the time.
    It's really no different than going under a road or other municipal/ utility infrastructure.
     
  15. dynaflow

    dynaflow shiftless...

    ...something like this...[​IMG]
     
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  16. 436'd Skylark

    436'd Skylark Sweet Fancy Moses!!!!!

    If it's in the right of way, which is almost certainly is, the town can cut it down for about 25 bucks and it's their tree. drilling under it will likely be over a grand. If they do it for one tree I bet there are 100 more that will need done.
     
  17. faster

    faster Well-Known Member

    Read the property deeds very carefully. There maybe things in them others have overlooked or taken for granted that give you some authority about what happens on said property. I have been in a fight with neighbors abusing an easement on my property with absolutely no help from law enforcement, county codes enforcement or county commissioners even though laws and codes were being violated. Codes enforcement gave me the idea saying the deeds stated right of way must be enforced. Well after reading my deed and the adjacent property deeds I come to find out the easement is 40' to far south onto my property. So I'm closing it and there is nothing anyone can do about it as it is not required for ingress/egress. My point is if you haven't thoroughly read the all property deeds concerned you might have a legal foot to stand on.

    Mikey
     
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  18. John Codman

    John Codman Platinum Level Contributor

    Yup as to the first line.
     
  19. bhambulldog

    bhambulldog 1955 76-RoadmasterRiviera

    Water and gas can be on the same side of the road. It;s not usual. But, when there is a good reason (to save a 160 year old tree)it is done
     
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  20. gstewart

    gstewart Well-Known Member

    You are probably screwed. Cut the tree down & get the log. There still may be some good wood in it.
    If a water line passes by your property, u may still have to pay a fee based on frontage.
     

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