What color black is this cars frame?

Discussion in 'Chassis restoration' started by JearBear, Mar 17, 2013.

  1. JearBear

    JearBear Not My Pants

    Is that flat or satin?
     

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  2. ubushaus

    ubushaus Gold Level Contributor

    Looks satin or hammertone.
     
  3. JearBear

    JearBear Not My Pants

    What is hammertone?
     
  4. copperheadgs1

    copperheadgs1 copperheadgs1

    Original frames were probably satin black. They were not dead flat. The gloss level may have varied from batch to batch. Do not make it glossy or too flat.
     
  5. ubushaus

    ubushaus Gold Level Contributor

    Not smooth. See pic.
     

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  6. wkillgs

    wkillgs Gold Level Contributor

  7. JearBear

    JearBear Not My Pants

  8. copperheadgs1

    copperheadgs1 copperheadgs1

    I have worked on many GM frames and they look like black paint to me?
     
  9. pglade

    pglade Well-Known Member

    That really looks like a flat black in the pic you posted.
     
  10. Redmanf1

    Redmanf1 Gold Level Contributor

    I think the frames are a cross between satin and semi-gloss black. The picture that I have attached is an original paint 72 frame that has been covered since new with undercoating.

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    Nelson




     

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  11. Dale

    Dale Sweepspear

    I read somewhere that the paint used on chassis and related components was mostly left over waste paints all thrown together. I don't know if that is true or not, but it makes sense since they really only needed a bare minimum of protection between the time of manufacture, assembly, and the car leaving the lot.
    If it is the case, how can there be any right or wrong level of black or gloss level? Aside from a high gloss.
     
  12. cstanley-gs

    cstanley-gs Silver Mist

    I like the Duplicolor Semi Gloss Black

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    After
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    When the engine was out, I did all the accessories with it
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    Here's the engine bay painted with the same Duplicolor Semi Gloss
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  13. SpecialWagon65

    SpecialWagon65 Ted Nagel

    I agree Curtis! Advanced Auto has the Duplicolor Semi Gloss - I'm using it for all underhood black stuff now. Sprays well- better than the Eastwood IMHO
     
  14. cstanley-gs

    cstanley-gs Silver Mist

    :) Autozone does not carry it any more. Have to get it at Advance Auto too. I have 3-4 cans on hand at all times, I worry it will be disconnected.
    I find it dries fast, smooth, holds the semi gloss shine really well and lasts, doesn't dull or look 'whitish'.
     
  15. pglade

    pglade Well-Known Member

    I believe the frames arrived at the plants already painted by whoever manufactured them (AO Smith or Parrish)....the chassis paint you refer to would have been applied later at the GM assembly plants. You are probably referring to the "blackout" paint which was applied to certain areas as specified in the Assembly Manuals.
     
  16. copperheadgs1

    copperheadgs1 copperheadgs1

    Patton, Don't forget Hayes made the frames as well.
     
  17. pglade

    pglade Well-Known Member

    Thanks Dave....didn't know that. The two names I always heard thrown around were AO Smith and Parrish (sp?). I think either the old or new water heater here in my house was made by AO Smith (or had/has parts made by them).

    Wonder if Hayes turned into Hayes-Lemmerz, a OEM supplier I've heard about in the past.

    A flowchart showing all the iterations, mergers, origination, etc of all the OEM suppliers would probably occupy a huge wall!
     
  18. copperheadgs1

    copperheadgs1 copperheadgs1

    Patton, I think Hayes may have been Kelsey-Hayes who also made steel wheels but not sure on that. Check out the pictures above. It shows a Hayes frame. My 71 had a Hayes as well.

    ---------- Post added at 09:24 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:24 PM ----------

    Nelson's pic shows a close=up of a Hayes marking.
     
  19. Duane

    Duane Member

    The color of the frame on this car is FLAT Black.:laugh:

    Sorry, couldn't help myself.
    Duane
     

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  20. Brad Conley

    Brad Conley RIP Staff Member

    After you told me that this morning, I just knew you would do it!!!! :laugh::laugh::laugh:
     

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