White on Tires

Discussion in 'The Bench' started by richopp, Nov 10, 2019.

  1. richopp

    richopp Well-Known Member

    I bought my last set of Radial T/A tires many years ago for my last Buick project. They were fine, and to clean them I used the typical Belch White and sometimes an SOS pad or Simple Green for real grime. Never had any real issues other than a slight yellowing at the edges of a couple of letters...not really noticeable.

    Over on the Corvette Forum, there is a huge discussion regarding NEWER tires with white walls, letters, etc. Evidently, the consensus is that manufacturers have changed the process or chemicals or something, and these white areas are turning yellow quickly and are not able to be cleaned with any of the typical cleaning processes.

    Evidently, in discussion with tire vendors, there are changes and the general response is "too bad" when it comes to keeping the white clean.

    Wondering if guys here found this to be true with their tire purchases over the last few years? I wanted white on my car, but ended up with the gold as it came that way, and Corvette guys say the knock-offs look best ("right") with the golds. Not a big fan, but they look OK and seem to be holding their color so far--about 6 months with little driving yet.

    Cheers,

    Richard
     
  2. Golden Oldie 65

    Golden Oldie 65 Well-Known Member

  3. flynbuick

    flynbuick Super Moderator Staff Member

    Seems to be a Michelin/ BF Goodrich tire issue. I am buying Mickey Thompson tires made by Cooper for this very reason. Cooper tires do not seem to have this issue.

    Since appearance is important issue to classic car owners, a class action may be the remedy of last resort. I may be able to assist with that if no one else steps up. There is going be a limitations of actions issue for older tires that varies by state. In other words, some owners of older tires are going to be left out if no voluntary action can be agreed upon.
     
  4. pbr400

    pbr400 68GS400

    I’ve noticed some blackwall tires turning brown, too.
    Patrick
     
  5. Dr. Roger

    Dr. Roger Stock enthusiast

    Never seen this on Cooper Cobras.
     
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  6. flynbuick

    flynbuick Super Moderator Staff Member

    I think the critical issue is that owners seem to be saying that TAs are not going back to white after cleaning.
     
  7. gokitty

    gokitty Gold Level Contributor

    My Coker brand redwalls have remained bright red. My Diamondback redwalls have deterioated to a blah,muddy red. No amount of scrubbing(3m greenpad,steel wool/sospad,bleche white,lacquer thinner) restores them.
     
  8. gstewart

    gstewart Well-Known Member

    The white letters are NOT staying white. U clean them (using as a last resort) toluene and in no time they go brown.. I have my tire guy working on this problem with his supplier.
     
  9. gs66

    gs66 Silver Level contributor

    I have not encountered this yet. I have several sets of Coopers, one Uniroyal Tiger Paw and 1 set of Primewells with RWL. I used to like the Dayton Daytona’s but they must not be around anymore.
     
  10. guideplate

    guideplate New Member

    Guys, any luck with getting people to replace your BF Goodrich Radial T/A tires? If so, are the nest sets any better?

    gstewart, I saw you were getting new ones sent to you. Any update?
     
  11. alvareracing

    alvareracing Well-Known Member

    my Cobra's have had this problem now for 4 years
     
  12. 72STAGE1

    72STAGE1 Runnin' with the Devil

    Sand paper works best for making them white again.
     
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  13. alvareracing

    alvareracing Well-Known Member

    what grit, dry or wet?
     
  14. sriley531

    sriley531 Buckle up, this could get rough....

    My bfgs are doing this bad. It'll be the last set I ever own. Per the recommendation of another member, I used a scotch Brite disc on a right angle die grinder. It works, but they brown back up pretty quick. I need to just go set the line lock and waste them so I have to replace them with some Cooper's. The Cobras on my white car have not discolored since purchased in 2017 and are an all around better performing tire.
     
  15. 72STAGE1

    72STAGE1 Runnin' with the Devil

    Dry works fine, 100 and up whatever feels best for you, just a light scuff and you’ll see immediately, and it lasts for a few months.

    what you guys are seeing is the Black dye bleeding into the White, rubber is naturally White.
     
  16. TrunkMonkey

    TrunkMonkey Well-Known Member

    "Tire Dressings" will also attract brake dust and road grime, and it creates a yellow shellac on top of the letters. So I don't use it anymore.
    I clean the tires and leave them now.
     
  17. gstewart

    gstewart Well-Known Member

    I have been waiting over a year for my dealer to replace two BFG T/A tires with the problem. No sandpaper does not work, nor does lacquer thinner or Toluene, nor does sos. It may clean them initially, but in about 3 days the blackness returns to the white. I have not cleaned my tires since last September. The rears are dirty but the fronts are really bad/discoloured.
    BFG refuses to admit a manufacturing problem When these tires were Manufactured in New Brunswick, Canada, (Michelin) there was no problem.
     
  18. richopp

    richopp Well-Known Member

  19. Mark Demko

    Mark Demko Well-Known Member

    Never used Belch wipe:p:p:p:p:p
     

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