Why some ebayers refuse to sell in Canada ???

Discussion in 'Ebay Parts and Cars' started by 68 Skylark cust, Oct 8, 2006.

  1. 68 Skylark cust

    68 Skylark cust French Canadian Member

    1- I don't know , are you the one who refused to sell a set of 4 1968-69 wheelwell molding couple days ago (that goes for 20 something $) :laugh:

    2- Personnaly I never complain if the sellers refuse to "lie" , I never asked for anyway , even If I like them to underestimate the price of the part , who knows the real value of used parts ??? For 95% of the people that is just a piece of junk that they'll throw to the garbage or sold to the recycler :spank:

    And that has nothing to do with "outside Us" sales too !!! When a New Yorker sell something to a Californian it would do the same thing :Smarty:
     
  2. 68 Skylark cust

    68 Skylark cust French Canadian Member

    At the Post Office I just get my package ready to be shipped and ask the clerk how much will it cost to ship in Usa that's it ! I don't even lose a minute at my job

    Maybe I'm fortunate enough to have a post office near my work in my small town ... for bigger package it would be way different I admit .... but for those bigger part I prefer going locally (pick-up) or willing to pay big time price if there is no other choice .

    Does the brokerage fees applies only after a certain limit of $$ and/or LBS or at the first penny ??
    For those (Canadian or American seller) who have an account with UPeeS or others I can't blame them for using this way of shipping without putting the left foot outside . As I said earlier the buyer pay the shipping so ... it's not (always) the sellers fault too :beer
     
  3. 455regal

    455regal Well-Known Member

    I total understand your frustrations!! I get that all the time too! Luckly for me my wife is a dual citizen and if its a real problem I get them to send it too my inlaws as they are here every other month( we have the grandchildren!!!) I always request USPS and not UPS as they really nail ya on brokerage fees!
     
  4. Jerseysky66

    Jerseysky66 Silver Level contributor

    Sorry Not me on the moldings.


    If you have good feedback most of the times I will sell the item to someone in Canada if they ask. I perfer postal money orders. I don't trust PayPal when shipping is much more than the item



    I don't understand the New Yorker-Californian THING :error:
     
  5. Steve Craig

    Steve Craig Gold Level Contributor

    I buy plenty of old parts from the US, E-Bay included. Always remember there is more than one way to skin the cat. I've asked a few fellow members here to bid & buy on my behalf, as George N. stated earlier. Many others have helped as well. You see an item where the vendor states no to Canada just ask here. My bet is you'll get 3-4 replies instantly with offers to help.
    Canada Post via USPS usually does not charge brokerage fees. Fed-Ex, UPS & others will. The HST is also a hard one to beat. 50/50 as to what you will/will not get charged.
    Another way is to simply ask the vendor to bend the rules a bit. I'll pay sameday, my feedback is excellent. This is usually enough to convince people I do want the part & I want to pay for it. This occurs so seldom I really can't call it an issue for me.
    Calais Maine is 60 miles due East. Couple large items I've retreived from the US side. Bucket seats are one example. Just have your paperwork in order. :TU:
     
  6. 68 Skylark cust

    68 Skylark cust French Canadian Member

    Is there any difference for the price of the shipping if you ship a 150$ or a 15 $ package within the Us ? I may be wrong on that one sorry , my point is who does really know the value of the used parts in those package ? They worth what someone is willing to pay , for others they worth absolutly nothing , then what difference it makes if the sellers write 15$ instead of 150$ on the package ? And it apply on BOTH direction , North to south or East to west & vice-versa


    Of course the insurance in case of accident will be less for the value that buyer really pay for .
     
    Last edited: Oct 9, 2006
  7. Jerseysky66

    Jerseysky66 Silver Level contributor

    No one needs to know the value of the package if it goes to California unless you pay for insurance. For outside the US you have to fill out the customs form (rules are rules-not everyone breaks them)

    The other problem with PayPal payments outside the US is that if you do not have a delivery confirmation number someone can do a charge back. I think the only way you can get that is if you use Global Express. If the item is heavy who is going to pay that money


    A 68 skylark part is worth more to you than me and a 66 Skylark part is worth more to me than you. That is the way it goes.
     
  8. 1967 Big Buick

    1967 Big Buick One day at a time.

    Tell me about it................ I just shipped an item to Sweden and the online USPS calculator was wrong. It cost me and additional $10. Now do I email the guy back and say it was more than they calculated or bite the bullet ????? So I bit the bullet, it wasn't his fault.
    I should have drove there,... then drove back, and emailed him about shipping cost. But wait it is now going to cost me more yet again because I had to drive there twice. :Dou: So in the end sometimes your going to win, and more than often your going to lose.
     
  9. pookn8or

    pookn8or mmmm doughnuts

    The other problem with PayPal payments outside the US is that if you do not have a delivery confirmation number someone can do a charge back. I think the only way you can get that is if you use Global Express. If the item is heavy who is going to pay that money
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    what is a charge back exactly?
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    Tell me about it................ I just shipped an item to Sweden and the online USPS calculator was wrong. It cost me and additional $10. Now do I email the guy back and say it was more than they calculated or bite the bullet ????? So I bit the bullet, it wasn't his fault.
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    i have it posted in the auction that i dont mind coughing up a couple of bucks if the ship is off but i dont sell free parts either. i have shipped a few parts where i made enough to buy a newpaper with after i chipped in on shipping. i had an item going out to california a few months ago. was off on the ship i took it back home and requested more funds he said he didnt want it then, i still have it not a problem. i would rather be out of some time and gas than sell free parts on ebay, plus the fees. it would have been the same as throwing it in the trash if i sent it out in my opinion.
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    i dont have it checked in my listings that i will ship out of the u.s. but i have it posted in the item description that i will and the buyer is responsible for any and all extra charges that is due at the time of ship if not fully paid the first time around. i will take it back home and wait for the funds to cover the ship. also i tried to send a chevy door trim to france a few weeks ago. you cant send anything over 60 inches in length to france is what i was told or something like that i had to take it back home and cut a half inch out of the box and go back what a pain that is. all the restrictions and what not that is a big reason i dont want to get to start shipping out of the u.s. even shipping in the u.s or out of it if your an 1/8 inch over or a pound under they stick it to you with extra fees. like the usps if you send a large box but it weighs less than fifteen pounds get your wallet out. it is cheaper to put rocks in to make the weight.

    http://stores.ebay.com/CYBER-SPACE-INTERNET-SALES
     
  10. Jerseysky66

    Jerseysky66 Silver Level contributor

    A charge back to me is if someone says they did not get an item and they report it to PayPal and PayPal asks you for proof that the buyer received the item and you don't have the proof the person could get the money back from you. You might be able to use the receipt and customs form from the post office to prove you at least sent the item.
     
  11. pookn8or

    pookn8or mmmm doughnuts

    thanks for the answer 66. i have this guy interested in a 65 dart taillight lens going to france. he wanted to know if i will ship to him, 23.00 to ship. i have it stated in my auctions that the buyer is responsible to request ins. and that when i ship out it is out of my hands any protection in your opinion there from people trying to screw you over with these charge backs or any other form of fraud. oh and to stay on topic i will ship to canada for ya.
    http://stores.ebay.com/CYBER-SPACE-INTERNET-SALES
     
  12. Jerseysky66

    Jerseysky66 Silver Level contributor

    The only thing I can tell you is call PayPal (1-888-221-1161) and ask them about charge back and fraud protection. Things are always changing with PayPal. Make sure you get someone that knows what they are talking about. I have talked to people from PayPal that must have just started and know almost nothing. If that happens ask for help from someone that really knows (maybe a manager). Let us know what you find out.


    jerseysky66
     
  13. 68 Skylark cust

    68 Skylark cust French Canadian Member

    So far we see both side of the fence , good points where discused .

    Now are you more willing to sell to a Canadian board members than E-bayers ? As far as I'm concern things get more personal here and we have better communication and time to seal the deal
     
  14. marcflag

    marcflag 70 GS455 clone

    Heille Donald!!! :) Jai commend plein de pieces sur Ebay, souvent c'tait marqu que le vendeur shippait juste au U.S., mais jai toujours communiqu avec le vendeur en lui demandant de me charger les frais aditionnels pis jai toujours reu mes morceaux.Faut dire que jai toujours payer avec des bon de poste U.S.....pis les frais de douane pis le transport UPS. a coute cher en tabarn......hh
     
  15. 68 Skylark cust

    68 Skylark cust French Canadian Member

    Salut Marc , la plupart du temps en posant la question au vendeur il rpond que oui il accepte :TU: Mais il y en a qui pense que le Canada est un pays situ tout prs de la lune ! haha Et/ou par ignorance refuse catgoriquement de livr au Canada .
    UPS m'as dja charg 75$ pour une pices de 40$ ... ca fait ch** pas mal si on peut dire ! :moonu: Certains s'en fouttent que lui a l'autre bout paient une facture de malade , sur le Forum c'est pas la mme attitude c'est plus facile de communiquer pour sa se fasse pour le mieux :TU:

    edit : au fait il est quelle couleur ton GS Marc ?
     
    Last edited: Oct 10, 2006
  16. TimR

    TimR Nutcase at large

    USPS is the only way to go. You're not cheating anyone out of fees, but you aren't getting cheated! Antique car parts are supposed to be duty free, UPS charges (usually) a flat 42.00 brokerage fee, plus duty on value of the part (10% seems to be their number), then GST on the whole thing so say you order a breather tube from CARS (just as an example) for 14.00 US, they charge you 15.00 to ship it UPS, then you pay another 50.00+ in UPS FEES (NOT gov fees!) so total would be 80.00!!!! And guess what, the postal service does not charge all the BS fees.

    So yeah if a guy marks it as a gift or lowers the value really it should mean nothing if the shipping company is following the gov regulations anyway but UPS seems to do whatever it wants so some guys request that to maybe help out. I've also had guys ask for it going South and I have no issue with it.

    If its UPS only I don't even bother unless its something that I really need badly, then I ship to my sister who sends it to me via post office or in person.

    I have made boxes to ship odd parts, I have shipped parts all over the planet (sweden, france, germany, uk, usa, etc) and never had a problem. Forms only take minutes. As far as online quotes go, UPS and FED EX are just as bad IMHO as the post office, I once got burned out of almost 70.00 as the online fed ex quote was right out to lunch...I sent it anyway as a deal is a deal. The other guy, being a classy Buick owner, fired me some cash back to help out which I thought was awesome.

    Its up to the seller of course, but offering at least north america is an easy way to increase your selling potential.
     
  17. mainebuick

    mainebuick Well-Known Member

    Thats easy! Its because Canadians are buying all the cool stuff, and the U.S. will be left with Honda civic parts!!! :Dou: Just kidding,
     
  18. 70 gsconvt

    70 gsconvt Silver Level contributor

    I can give you a reason why not: I just sold a resevoir bottle to a guy in Canada. He sent me Canadian Postal money order for $45. No one here will cash it. The banks want a $20 fee to cash it.

    Now I have to go and contact them again and see if they can paypal me. What a pain.
     
  19. Jerseysky66

    Jerseysky66 Silver Level contributor

    You should be able to cash that at your local post office for free as long as it is real.




     
  20. RG67BEAST

    RG67BEAST Platinum Level Contributor

    Some banks do charge a $20 fee. Some even make you wait a week until the cheque clears.
    I've sent approx. 35 Canada Post US $ orders to the U.S. 4 Guys had problems with their banks. The one of them also said his local Post Office and his bank would not cash it. He did find a bank that would for no fee and was cool about it as did the three others.
    Now I use Paypal. Problem is some guys don't so I lose out on some stuff. I tell them straight up about the ordeal some others have had in the past and they want no part of it unless they know their bank will cash it. Like the seatbelts I just lost out on in the for sale forum.
    The few banks that are ignorant to the fact it should be treated the same as cash are the problem.
    Ray
     

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