Wow. What’s your opinion on this?

Discussion in 'The Bench' started by Buickone, Nov 12, 2019.

  1. pbr400

    pbr400 68GS400

    I turned 16 in 1985 and was very interested in cars then-new, old, exotic, you name it. Most of the guys I knew (and more than a few of the girls) were at least aware of what people drove and what was ‘cool’. And we ALL got our learner’s at 15 and driver’s license at 16 on the first day possible. I had to wait three days because the state patrol only tested Wednesday through Friday. My son is now 12 and is ‘1 in 5’. He wants to take his test in our ‘85 El Camino because I took my test in it.
    Patrick
     
  2. ilikebmx999

    ilikebmx999 Well-Known Member

    In 1985, I was -1. My first car at 16 was my 1970 Buick gs. At the ripe old age of 35 I currently have my Buick, a 1985 k5 blazer cucv, a 2010 tahoe (wife’s car, lowered and cammed) and a 2014 caprice ppv (also cammed). If I had money I’d be in even more v8 trouble, I can’t get enough of modding/reading/watching anything to do with cars. I’ve got friends around my age that are similar.
     
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  3. Freakazoid

    Freakazoid Gold Level Contributor

    Sorry to say. Many of the younger generation only care about, cell phones, game systems and new cars. The more electronic devices the better. Ide bet if a family member passed with a classic car, and they got it. They would sell it or put 22" wheels on it..
    Yep, it's very sad. Everything always changes...But We are very lucky to have grown up when we did. I guess there will be a generation into imports with Turbos, The Fat and furious generation. IDK.
     
  4. ilikebmx999

    ilikebmx999 Well-Known Member

    I recently saw that with a member who just passed away. It appears his family instantly listed his car for sale and knowing him, he absolutely loved that car maybe more than anything. Sad.
     
  5. Freakazoid

    Freakazoid Gold Level Contributor

    Yep. Very sad. You would think they would want to keep it in the family. My daughter grew up hating my car. Now shes 30. They love to visit and go ride in the beast. My son in law cant wait till I kill over. Lol. Cought him at cruisn the coast posing with the car taking pictures. He cant handle the power. I see him in it. I have a vision ov a telephone pole molded to the front end.
     
  6. telriv

    telriv Founders Club Member

    I count myself LUCKY as both of my sons 37 & 35 are both into cars, trucks, motorcyles & racing. We have something in common that keeps us closer than most/many so much so we're thinking about building a race car starting this winter.
    For myself the knowledge gained by the new generation with computers & sensors is awe inspiring to me.
    Lets see what happens.

    Tom T.
     
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  7. sriley531

    sriley531 Excommunicado

    So I was born in '84 and own 2 '72's and a '71. I've always been into the 72 and older cars, not totally sure why. My old man took me to car shows a few times as a kid, but not regularly by any stretch.

    Anyway, what the guy in the video says isn't entirely untrue. Sure, he's a bit of a smug pompous ass, but he's not entirely wrong. Where I think hes off is his argument with cars and coffee. I go to the Dayton one when I can, and it's known as one of the fastest growing in the country. The first one I went to had about 250 cars. I've since been to ones that had 1200 cars. There's a massive variety there, it's probably only 35% (ish) old stuff. BUT! I've had plenty of 20-somethings walk by my car and comment/ask questions and be genuinely interested, taking pictures and what-not. I've found countless videos on YouTube of my car leaving the event. As I'm driving down the exit road, I see plenty of younger attendees stop and stare. The younger generation isn't entirely disenfranchised, but I do agree they want to see movement, not a static display. No, I dont think these cars are as highly sought after as they were in the 90's/early 2000's, there's been a decline. But the hobby isn't dead yet. I can take the green car to just about any busy gas station and show you proof of that by the way people of all ages approach it.
     
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  8. 1969RIVI

    1969RIVI Well-Known Member

    I have two girls ages 8 and 10. My oldest loves art and creating things. My youngest is a pure adrenaline junkie who's blood is 93 octane. She loves everything and anything that can go fast. We got a foot of snow here now and on the way home from dinner tonight she says to me " hey dad, look the plow hasn't come yet hit that corner with some fishtails" Me: sweety, you got your belt on? Her: YEP!! Annnd the wife shakes her head :D. And before anyone jumps in to criticize and rip me apart we were on our one car wide lane way rolling at about 5mph and I just juiced the gas in my truck to kick and spin the back wheels a bit. I didn't do no high speed Tokyo drift stunts with my kids in the back. Moral of the story I know exactly who the Riv is going to when I kick the bucket!
     
  9. ilikebmx999

    ilikebmx999 Well-Known Member

    I hope I’m as lucky to have my little girl be into cars. She sure grabs for her toy ones more than anything else (she’s nearly a year old)
     
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  10. bhambulldog

    bhambulldog 1955 76-RoadmasterRiviera

    Quite a snarky ass he is indeed.
    And it’s not his message I disagree with.
    It’s his attempt to demean and .... you put it well , he is an ass.
    He’s knocking this and knocking that. But doesn’t take the time to explain what his ‘Car Genus’ program is.
    All We’re left with is, he doesn’t like museums.
    Because a couple of museum owners didn’t like his idea. Whatever that idea might be....
     
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  11. 66electrafied

    66electrafied Just tossing in my nickel's worth

    The guy is an a$$hat, but he's unfortunately right. I used to work in the museum field and he nailed it. I was always the youngest guy in the group, and the old people just didn't get that we had to change with the times. We ran a local city museum, and we'd get all of 25 visitors during the summer months, mostly people who stumbled in thinking it was something else. I was on the board then, and when I told the rest of the board that the local coffee shop sees 3000 visitors a day, from all over, and tour busses stop there and so on...why? Because they offer something that people want. We didn't. We didn't add to anything, and we weren't enriching the culture because no one was going there. Yet the board wanted the local government to pay for the museum and it's upkeep, because it was a "cultural icon". Really? Who'd know? No one, because no one ever had been there.
    So a$$hat here gets it, he's right. The trend with car shows and car museums is dead on, and dying. Our cars appeal to a dying demographic, and soon, like the 40s and 50s cars, the values will be tumbling and the buyers ever fewer. We failed, we failed to pass on our passions, we failed to stay relevant by constantly trying to relive the past. I'm having the same problem with my coin club. We're looking to go on line, we're going to do webinars, and we're going to design our shows to be more interactive and hands on. This is what this generation looks for, they want to touch, be helped visualizing, and helped along towards a learning experience. I've got some kids who are interested in history, they don't want the dry facts and figures, they want the stories and the experiences, and because of video, they're far more visually stimulated, they want to live it. A static car show is the most boring thing on earth to them. At a coin show recently, we invited an outfit that specialized in living history to put up a demonstration of hammering coins the old Roman way. The public got to make their own hammered Roman style silver Denarius for $10. We had a line up that went out into the street. The lesson for us was this was a side show that became the main event, no one cared about the static displays and scarcely paid any attention to them. But we get asked to get the Roman mint back.
    So; - don't dwell in the past, the numbers of people into cars in 1985 is completely and utterly irrelevant right now, and if you were smart enough to give your kid a hands-on experience with your cars and imparted a love for them good for you. If not, sit back and honestly evaluate what went wrong. Were you one of those people a$$hat railed on about, you didn't want the little brat anywhere near the car because he could pound a scratch into it.
    The number that is important is the number of people who are into our old cars right now. That number is dropping and dwindling. There's a good reason why this site sees more bots and trolls than members in a given day.
     
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  12. Smokey15

    Smokey15 So old that I use AARP bolts.

    I agree that Casey is arrogant and full of himself. He was on No Prep Kings reporting from SEMA, which I really disliked. I could care less to see him, view SEMA, or listen to guys from other shows clueless opinions on racers of who they new zip about during a show about racing.
    He has a few points there, but never tells the 'solutions' he brags about.
     
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  13. gs66

    gs66 Silver Level contributor

    I could only watch him about 3 minutes so I didn’t get his message. I did figure out that anything he has to say I can get from a less irritating source. Never heard of him and seriously I already forgot his name.
     
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  14. 66electrafied

    66electrafied Just tossing in my nickel's worth

    That's true, he never spells out just how he intends to fix it with his "Genius Garage" concept or whatever that is. And the fact that he's talked to a couple of museums already and they haven't bought the concept is telling too. I'm game for new ideas, but they have to be workable and there has to be a return on investment, whether it's time or money. Ideas with no track records are just that; ideas. Sure, if one has the funds and time to go experimental, that's great, but most museums don't. They need a "silver bullet" idea to get people in the door. Anything that involves huge amounts of cash and lots of volunteer commitment is pretty much a non-starter.
     
  15. 66electrafied

    66electrafied Just tossing in my nickel's worth

    OK; I just googled and read about the "Genius Garage". It's an interesting concept, and if it works, it tends to take the best college or university minds and make them better with "real world experience", which is something I assume they all pay for. It's also a self-aggrandizement page for Casey Putsch, he figures prominently all over it and it's obviously his money-making vehicle. So I'm thinking the trade-off for any of these museums would be a depletion of stock due to things getting wrecked and a large commitment of volunteer time fixing this crap back up again, or being available as lackeys for the "team". So I can see where they'll tell him "we'll call you". Of course I'd have to see the numbers and how it would work, and I think that's exactly what he wants the group to find funding and pay for, - all of which is very difficult for a smaller privately funded museum. The realities are becoming painfully clear now.
    Yeah, I can see now why he gets shown the door.
     

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