I sent this: "Morning. Does it have the original engine? Parts of the engine- such as carb and distributor? Original rims? Metal pre heat tube from the exhaust manifold to air cleaner? Fan shroud (as that is not the 69 GS fan shroud)? These are large ticket items that are not easily found.. Just want to have a clear picture of what it needs before I possibly have it inspected. Thank you" $20K car... being generous..
The Holidays are here and snow season is now upon Minneapolis. 6k ish would be a seasonal adjustment, and not a discount IMHO. This seller is anything but motivated. The market has spoken for months and said this chap is high.
It's a nice car and likely to appreciate over time. If he waits, and keeps the car in a good place, He might get more.
I read it, but the prices seem to be all over the place. Seems to me, someone needs to inspect it in person, because everything is just a guesstimate.
The only number that matters is what the seller needs. Which apparently is 32k ish. The car looks good, but it's a survivor, not a restored car. As Jason pointed out elsewhere the modern era seems to think they all need to be restored. Hopefully the car finds a good home, like Brian's.
I could see $26k as a fair price for both the buyer and seller for this car. But I still disagree with George when he said "$20K car... being generous." He's implying that this is really car that should be in the $ teens. Heck, if this car is $20k I might break my rule and add just one more to my fleet of junk cars. My wife might not even notice another one at this point.
-20% for auto vs manual, you're still at 30K and for a car in Good condition, which I think is where I'd categorize this, it does seem fair. I don't "think" Hagerty pulls these prices out of thin air I think they are based on actual recorded sales but I could be wrong.
A good detailing and proper photo session would go a long way with this GS. I see it being in the middle - not correct enough for the correct crowd, and not enough curb appeal for the general muscle car enthusiast. I think it would be great to have, but it just looks sloppy, with photos to match.
Gary- truth be told, I don’t follow the 69’s as much anymore… I guess if the paint and interior were original, and it had no rust, and had the 246 carb and the stage distributor and all of the original parts (sans block), 25k would be a good price for buyer and seller….
Gary, I have to admit, this 69 GS400 is not the typical 69 GS. Has a 455-transplant motor that looks to be a race motor. It was raced but sat for a lot of years. So, for a Buick purist, that's not a buy. The original 400 was damaged and seems like it's not repairable. However, that said, I'm not a purest so I can appreciate the very good condition it seems to be in (pics always make cars better looking than they appear). Original paint looks very good, so I know it's been garaged. Interior looks good too. With the correct Rally wheels & tires, this would be an outstanding car. For someone that is looking for a good looking 69GS, It's worth $30K. It is 54 years old, so what does anybody expect? Its history says the father was racing this Buick, so it's not a trailer queen. VET (Navy)
Max, if this 69GS is solid as many guys have said, there is NO need for a restoration. My 70 GS needed to be restored, has lots of ware, tear and a little rust in the trunk only. I bought it because the guy on this forum who restored it is super good. But had it been a survivor in as good as shape as this 69GS, I would have bought that. I just don't want to get into a Buick that needs a huge amount of work, and we ALL know how expensive body work & paint can be. VET (Navy)
I don't know about the #'s carb or dist. This is not a Buick guy we're dealing with. George, if you get an answer, please share. As far as price is concerned, he's let 27k come and go provided everything was on the up and up. I'm thinking his absolute bottom line is 30k. If I wasn't willing to go there during the summer, I'm sure not going there now. I would be willing to consider 25-26 if the parts listed above happened to be correct. Not likely though, and they don't mean much to me anyway, since the original 400 is long gone. Given some of the stories about engine parts availability and the machining turn times out there, I just wish that engine was fresher. That's my real hold up on this ride. A vintage racer that's sat around a lot is not normally a recipe for dependability. That reminds me, the tires are too old to drive on too.
Brian- he said he has the carb, distributor, and a few other odds and ends. He claims the fan shroud is original, which it is not…..I no longer debate/ educate people unless they specifically ask….
Now on Bring A Trailer https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1969-buick-gs-16/ I like this vintage photo with the stock wheels: