1970 Diplomat blue

Discussion in 'Color is everything!' started by goldx, Aug 2, 2020.

  1. goldx

    goldx Well-Known Member

    Going to paint my 70 the diplomat blue. I was wondering what paint manufacturer makes closest base clear, to look most like original lacquer? I’ve been spraying lacquer for years because of how it looks right, any thoughts would help before I by the paint.
  2. Nailhead in a 1967

    Nailhead in a 1967 Kell-Mnown Wember


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  3. goldx

    goldx Well-Known Member

    Thanks for the info, I have seen some base clear jobs that look nice but not right if you know what I mean, just wondering if anyone has any experience with these to see what’s closest match to the original lacquer finish.
  4. hugger

    hugger Well-Known Member

    Texture? Or color?
    Because no base clear is going to look like lacquer,..
  5. Matt Knutson

    Matt Knutson Well-Known Member

    Why not use lacquer this time?
  6. Buick 72

    Buick 72 Well-Known Member

    I hope you have better luck than me in finding an answer. I have not found anything that comes close to matching the look of lacquer in a base/clear. I have a very small repair to make on a fender of a car with the original paint. If I try to match it I might as well paint the fender a completely different color because it will be just that obvious. I have heard that some people put a very small amount of flattening agent or white paint in the clear to better match the look of lacquer. I think both are bogus and don't really see how either one would help it match any better. Maybe someone with more experience could explain why or why not. If you find a good solution let us all know.
  7. hugger

    hugger Well-Known Member

    You can over reduce the clear that will get you the closest as it will die back but still have a gloss all while being thinner looking
  8. Weisguy184

    Weisguy184 Well-Known Member

    I painted my 1970 GS Stage 1 convertible in Diplomat blue with Sherman Williams base coat clear coat. I love it. It looks very close to me.
  9. goldx

    goldx Well-Known Member

    I was painting lacquer because theses cars are all in garages now it’ll last quite awhile , however ppg quit making lacquer so only choice is a place in California that makes it but don’t know anything about the product, so a little worried about quality. I think solid colors you can get away with base clears or single stage, I just prefer the lacquer look. Thanks for all reply’s.
  10. goldx

    goldx Well-Known Member

    The 72 stage 1 is DuPont burnished copper 239FF640-3A6B-4FD1-8F55-DB65D260E017.jpeg 01FC629C-7823-43DF-BDC2-7D481DFBE8E8.jpeg lacquer we painted in 2000. The 72 455 is ppg lacquer sunburst yellow, we mixed a pint of two step did a test and cleared it and the base clear wasn’t as vibrant in my opinion. I prefer the metallic in the old crappy paint 239FF640-3A6B-4FD1-8F55-DB65D260E017.jpeg 01FC629C-7823-43DF-BDC2-7D481DFBE8E8.jpeg
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  11. Paintworks

    Paintworks GS Restorations

    Like hugger said, you can over reduce the clear a bit to get it thinner and it will also give you a bit of die back. Transtar 6841 clear is an aftermarket clear that isn't very high solids and can sometimes look a bit lacquer-ish out of the gun. You can also go with PPG MTK single stage. However the metallic is a little hard to control as it is still a urethane. Fairly inexpensive and may be work doing a spray out.
  12. rolliew

    rolliew Well-Known Member

    What is the year and paint code for the copper colored car please?
  13. Nailhead in a 1967

    Nailhead in a 1967 Kell-Mnown Wember


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  14. goldx

    goldx Well-Known Member

    Paint was bought in the late 80’s I shot it in 2004 I think, can’t get this anymore. 7BEF859F-DFC3-470B-92D7-93689CA75E82.jpeg
  15. goldx

    goldx Well-Known Member

    With all the wildfires out here been very busy, cleared 70 GSX,70 GS COUPE and 70 convertible, fire has slowed down but still have a 70 stage ragtop 4 speed ,36 ford cabriolet,69 GS400, 65 lark and factory 4 speed 62 skylark, in storage all must be towed so watching and panicking so far fire is outside of 5 miles but very scary. 48FDF8CE-614D-4E9A-A883-AC2199D86B05.jpeg B89C66B1-2ED1-4848-9885-4CB085C88D9C.jpeg F8EA813F-71C2-4F55-AC43-B46154E9BE9D.jpeg 4CC2F726-F5B9-4771-88EE-B7103474715A.jpeg
  16. telriv

    telriv Founders Club Member


    Get a move on. Once it gets close it's already too late. It can & does happen so fast, sometimes only 10-15 minutes, you barely have time to get out of dodge so to speak.
    Would hate to come back on & see the remnants of a charred mess of molten metal, piles of aluminum & burnt tires as EVERYTHING will burn if it gets hot enough.
  17. goldx

    goldx Well-Known Member

    The fire has stalled damp air has helped and the hangar has a major highway between the fire and it’s location.The winds died down on Wednesday so that is huge and the firewall is the highway which is approximately five miles from edge of Fire and hangar is three miles on the other side so I feel some sense of ease but watching hourly. This is just devastation at the highest level, so many have lost so much, never seen anything like this in my 56 years.
  18. no1oldsfan

    no1oldsfan Well-Known Member

    Thoughts and Prayers for you and your family. Hate to hear all that.

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