Yes he has. Sadly we all know how that ended.... Wrecked a low mile all orig Burgundy Mist 70 GS455. Of course he blames the young girl for it LOL. All kidding aside that was a horrible way for such a great original car to go !!!! Worst of all it happened at the Nationals. Thankfully no one was hurt. I think it may have traumatized DL. I know it would me.
Close...I was there when it happened. It was at a gas station in TN about 4 miles from my dad’s house. A local resident backed up without noticing the bright red car behind her and dented the door of the GS. Thankfully it was only a flesh wound and the GS survived. It was still a bad day for DL.
Any of you guy's know a gentleman from Indiana named Lloyd Luther ? I believe he owned this car and had purchased it from the original owner. I had met Lloyd and many other great Buick people at some of the GS Nat's from years ago. Drove my convertible to National Trail Raceway in Colombus Ohio , I think it was 1999 and Lloyd had the car with him then. If I remember correctly Lloyd actually had a few warehouse's full of GS and Riviera cars
SOooooo........... the Ebay ends with no takers at $48k? Now maybe we can get into the "Reallity Zone" of $38K?
One 10-day auction without a buyer doesn’t necessarily mean a car is or is not worth its listed price on eBay. It simply means that the people that saw the eBay ad didn’t bite. There are lots of people that don’t surf eBay or the Internet forums and have not seen it yet. My father is an example, he’s never surfed eBay nor V8buick and has never registered as a user on either site. Some collectors are the same way.
Yes this is Lloyd Luther’s former car. He also took it to the 2007 GS Nats which is the first time I saw it in person.
I'd rather have a Saturn Yellow '70, but if it was only based on looks, I'd pick this car. Like it more every time I look at it.
I kindly disagree, just because somebody puts a crazy price on a car doesn't mean its worth it to anybody else, and also I believe that literally 10's of thousands saw it on the Internet if not millions, word spreads fast, its not a real Survivor its 1/2 a survivor, its not a BB and its not a 4-speed , its simply over-priced. I respect your opinion but as I always say Price it to sell it or price it to keep it.
Thanks Gary , I always remembered that car, Really beautiful in person and the unrestored cars in this condition are really hard to find, Love looking at them just the way they came from the factory. Lloyd had quite a few GS and Stage 1 cars years ago. I wonder how many he still has ? Also mentioned he had quite a few Riviera's . Great guy really friendly and easy to talk to
Considering that the '70 Stage 2 J&B car only bid to barely over $100k at a recent auction, you're probably right about the value of this car.
I agree about original cars. I love looking at restored cars but I will walk past a full row of concours restored cars to get to an original car.
This is one of the reason why I keep my all original interior and exterior 71 GS350 4 speed. I would like to restore the exterior but the cost is way over my budget to get is right.
What are your reasons for not considering the GSX a real survivor ? Just the lower paint being touched up or something else ?
Yep, a Survivor is a Car that's original other than consumables, replaced parts from normal wear such as battery, alternator, starter, belts, shocks, tires, brakes. Painting the bottom 1/2 of the entire car crosses that boundary IMO.
While I respect your opinion , I do not think paint which is cosmetic should eliminate this car from being a survivor. There are no records of small accidents or fender benders over the years. I would imagine a large percentage of cars that are almost 50 years old would have had some minor repair or paintwork over the years. Drive train , numbers matching , original frame and interior are very important. Also the fact the original striping on a GSX was untouched and left intact is very important. This is all just my opinion of course but you do not come across a GSX with 28K miles on it too often.
I completely agree that this is a very special car, and I would love to have it, but at the same time it has had 1/2 the car repainted, just a fact, I don't think it hurts its value very much at all, I personally love the car and would love it in my garage, but when someone is selling it and overstates the facts it crosses into the twilight zone............integrity is as important as pedigree to me. Just leave out the showmanship and both the buyer and the seller will be happier in the end.
I don't think calling it a survivor is "overstating the facts", and it seems that the judging bodies would agree. And he says exactly what was repainted. I think the ad is pretty well written compared to most and sticks pretty closely to the facts, especially for a dealership. Which parts do you see as "overstating of facts" and "showmanship"?