2017 Buick Stock Appearing

Discussion in 'GSCA events' started by Jim Rodgers, Aug 7, 2017.

  1. Jim Rodgers

    Jim Rodgers Well-Known Member

    2019 Buick Stock Appearing
    2019GS Nationals Buick Stock Appearing RULES

    1. This class is for STOCK APPEARING and STOCK SOUNDING Buicks from the years 1960-1976 only with no visible modifications. No fiberglass. Factory glass must be in place.

    2. Full interior must be stock including shifters. Aftermarket safety belts and roll bars ok. Aftermarket gauges ok.

    3. Engine compartment must appear stock. No aftermarket headers or carbs. Iron exhaust manifolds must be retained. Stock, Edelbrock B4B/Performer, and Poston S-Divider will be the only intake manifolds allowed but they must be painted engine color. Stock Iron, Stock Aluminum, TA aluminum Stage 1, Edelbrock and Bulldog aluminum stock appearing cylinder heads legal but must be painted engine color. Casting numbers and date codes will not be checked. Stock fuel pump and stock fuel line from stock pump to carb must be in place. Electric fuel pumps ok. Stock appearing alternators only. Wiper motors must be in place. No electric water pumps or electric fans. Very minor chrome dress up items are allowed. No visible underhood cool cans. Any ignition may be used, but distributor must appear stock. Air cleaner must be used. Stock air cleaner lid may be inverted, and drop base 360 degree air cleaners are legal as long as tastefully done. No aftermarket ram air systems.

    4. Any gear/ GM trans/converter combination ok. No clutchless transmissions or Trans brakes.

    5. Factory front and rear suspensions only. Rear upper adjustables ok as are "No-Hop Bars". Front sway bar optional. Aftermarket springs, shocks and air bags allowed. GM rear ends only. Brake upgrades limited to stock type and must be stock appearing.

    6. Cars must run full mufflered exhaust exiting at the stock location. Any pipe up to 3” is acceptable.

    7. Factory and factory appearing wheels only, limited to 10" width.

    8. Stock fuel tank must be in place. No lowered sumps. No externally mounted gauges.

    9. Rear tires are limited to 10 tread width. No fenderwell modification allowed except minor lip alteration.

    10. No advertising, lettering, or decals on exterior of car.

    Unlimited "all run" field. Cars will be run BRACKET STYLE, using a Pro Tree. Each car will make 2 qualifying attempts, and your best E.T. during qualifying will be your dial in, or index. Cars will be paired using a Sportsmans Ladder where #1 qualifier races #2 and so on.
     
    Last edited: Feb 19, 2019
  2. Jim Rodgers

    Jim Rodgers Well-Known Member

    No rules changes from last year.

    Due to 2016 rainout, payouts carry over to this year.

    Special trophies carry over to this year.
     
  3. pbr400

    pbr400 68GS400

    Lookin' forward to it!
    Patrick
     
  4. Bryan&PhyllisW

    Bryan&PhyllisW Well-Known Member

    I'll be there as well. anyone else?
     
  5. Jim Rodgers

    Jim Rodgers Well-Known Member

    I will and Mike Littlejohn.

    I have to leave early Friday morning though. Senior night at the football game, got to be there for my son.
     
  6. Starc Traxler

    Starc Traxler Well-Known Member

    I will be there
     
  7. stangman

    stangman Well-Known Member

    I hope to be there as well. Be my first time.
     
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  8. Jim Rodgers

    Jim Rodgers Well-Known Member

    Welcome aboard!!
     
  9. Jim Rodgers

    Jim Rodgers Well-Known Member

    Got another $200 cash to go to the payouts!!
     
  10. GRNDNL

    GRNDNL Wannabe

    Thanks Jim...
     
  11. hugger

    hugger Well-Known Member

    I'll be a BSA participate for 2018 with a 70 White GSX,.. can't wait thanks for putting BSA together it's unique and very much appreciated
     
  12. pbr400

    pbr400 68GS400

    Congrats to the 2018 winner Dave Hemker!! Thanks to all who show up for this class every year, and thank you to the new faces. Thank you Jim for organizing and herding all these cats.

    That said, several regulars including Jim have discussed this and would like the class to grow. I know a lot of pretty drivers show up carring spectators, and a lot of very pretty show cars appear on Fridays-we wish you’d stay, make a qualifying pass or two, and race on Saturday! Many of the cars that run the class are ‘drivers’, not purpose built racers. If you have a stock or stock looking show car, or a driver that has manifolds and stock looking carburetor/air cleaner and wheels, you SHOULD run it. Most in the class are running slicks on matching rims (a small investment for the fun of a WOT launch). Currently we’re running the ‘pro’ tree, but we’re willing to hear opinions on switching to the ‘sportsman’ tree (along with any other ideas).

    Any input, opinions, questions, post them! We everyone with a stock appearing car, show, driver, even project in process, to consider pitting in the circle track, hanging out, and racing. Ask here or PM Jim or me. We’re all friendly! Cone join in! We serve refreshments!

    Patrick
     
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  13. Bigpig455

    Bigpig455 Fastest of the slow....

    Congratulations to Dave, he's got a couple of hard running cars. That class certainly has an appeal to me, and would probably draw other FAST/Supercar/Pure Stock racers. I've seen other groups open that type of racing up to all stock musclecars as an exhibition group, and have quite a bit of success with it. For instance, a regional Mopar group invited the Supercar Shootout crew to run at their fall event at LVD, had a great car count and everybody was impressed with the stock tire ET's these guys were running. Your stock appearing class doesnt have to be limited to stock tire, but it's a neat way to bring in some diversity and car count without detracting from the Buick nature of the eliminations.
     
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  14. hugger

    hugger Well-Known Member

    What a lot of people forget, is the racing is a HUGE part of the National's we used to get Magazine coverage and TV spots because the action was Non stop.

    Building the Nationals back up is more important than ever now and the coming years. With Richard getting older along with the other "founding fathers" it's up to us younger guys to not only maintain at the very least but to make it grow.

    BSA is attractive for a lot of reasons you get to run beside good looking cars that that people want to watch. If your concern is not knowing "how" or "the car being slow" or hurting the car etc that's what the other racers are there for, to show how to do it, how to make it faster and to help when something breaks. I hear people say "mine's to nice" all to often that's usually a coverup for unwarranted nerves about actually running the car, it's no different than stretching it's legs on the interstate.

    Come out and truly participate in all there is to do
     
  15. wildcat4

    wildcat4 Well-Known Member

    Totally agree.
    Good statement Hugger
     
  16. David Hemker

    David Hemker Well-Known Member

    Thank You Patrick and Rhett for the compliments. For those of you who are considering racing in the BSA class we would really like to have you do so. I have raced my cars in Stock and or Stock Appearing form for 28 years at the GS Nationals, Pure Stock Muscle Car Race in Michigan and the FAST & Factory /Stock races in Michigan.

    I do understand the reasons for not participating but please do so at least once to see what it is like. At the Pure Stock and the FAST & Factory Stock races there are many HIGH $$$ cars racing such as Hemi cars of all sorts, LS-6 Chevys, L-88 Vettes, COPO cars, Yenko's, RA III & IV Pontiacs, Cobra Jet Fords, Six Pack Mopars, 442's and GSX's to name a few as well as tribute or cars put together to look like the real deal. Put a little wax coating on the lower rear 1/4's and the rubber will wipe off quite easily. Yes there have been a few broken parts over the years however nothing so serious that it cannot be fixed. From 1992 - 2000 I drove my 455 - 4 speed convertible to the GS Nationals, raced it, entered it in the show, raced on Saturday and drove it home. The only break down was a transmission in 2000 which was changed in the pits, made it back on the track and 540 miles on the return trip home. I always carried a spare just in case.

    Please do not be afraid to participate. I always have extra slicks with me if someone needs to use a set.
     
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  17. 72STAGE1

    72STAGE1 Runnin' with the Devil

    Not allowing Headers knock a huge number of cars available away IMO.
     
  18. pbr400

    pbr400 68GS400

    There’s several classes, including brackets, for cars with headers. Those classes may need promoting, but with BSA we’re trying to reach the dozens of show and spectator cars we see every year that don’t run any class.
    Patrick
     
  19. Beamer

    Beamer Suncoupes Rule !!!

    Headers takes away 2/3rd's of the Buick Stock Appearing name of the class. More people are realizing that headers are not needed to make a car quick. And the appearance of a quick car in factory trim under the hood impresses many people. Add to that, we have found people who port the exhaust manifolds to find a compromise from installing headers and their downfalls.

    The class is a lot of fun and the camaraderie is amazing. We help one another out, loan parts back and forth and enjoy the sustained WOT blast down the 1320 !


    Mike
     
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  20. 72STAGE1

    72STAGE1 Runnin' with the Devil

    Well that certainly changed everything with that explaination, all of now that would love to have fun with our cars will simply go and buy exaust manifolds and full 2" exhaust just so we can join in...………..Makes zero sense when applied to my statement. You should have to run stock tires, and plug wires...…….and also remember that pesky 2" exhaust that I bet NO ONE HAS??????
     

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