66 st 400 transmission

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  1. btchnbug

    btchnbug Member

    my 66 riviera has the st400 transmission and i was wondering if the pump out of a th400 would work in the st400. if not were can iget a pump for this trans. thanks for youre help.mike
     
  2. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    Is it a switch pitch transmission? I believe the ST400 is just Buick's name for the THM400, so yes. But Buick had a switch pitch ST400 from 65-67, and the pump and input shaft is different than the fixed pitch 400's.

    Here is a thread with pictures showing the differences between the fixed pitch and switch pitch input shafts.

    http://www.v8buick.com/showthread.php?143723-VP-converter-Trans-visual-ID-guide
     
    Last edited: Feb 20, 2013
  3. BRUCE ROE

    BRUCE ROE Well-Known Member

    The 65-67 Olds & Cad pumps & torque converters will directly interchange. Anything else is fixed pitch. It is
    possible to swap a complete set from a 68 on (or earlier Chev/Pont) and convert your trans to fixed pitch, but
    you will give up some real & potential performance. Rebuild shops have been known to do this, watch out.

    What is wrong with your present pump? Bruce Roe
     
  4. stubnosebrock

    stubnosebrock Well-Known Member

    Sorry about the hijack. So the pump itself between switch pitch and a switch pitch tranny are different? What other parts besides the convertor and input shaft are not the same? Im getting ready to have my SP400 rebuilt and want to make sure the rebuild guy knows what he is doing. Brandon
     
  5. DaWildcat

    DaWildcat Platinum Level Contributor

    Unique items for the variable pitch transmissions:

    Torque converter
    Input shaft

    Front pump (with stator solenoid and wiring attached)
    Dual prong case electrical connector
    Trans case restricting orifice plug at the 7 o'clock position behind the front pump

    Devon
     
  6. btchnbug

    btchnbug Member

    I ju st got this car and I dont know much about it.the transmision started makeing a whining sound and its not wanting to go in to gear. I thought the pump was going out but was wrong.I was told it could be cavitating if it was rebuilt wrong. now im just trying to find out as much information about this car as I can.
     
  7. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    How's the fluid level and color?
     
  8. BRUCE ROE

    BRUCE ROE Well-Known Member

    Make sure the filter isn't plugged, and fluid level is up. The switch pitch use a different filter & pan (heel print),
    but can be converted to the common later setup. If the trans has never been rebuilt, its waaaay overdue for
    new soft (rubber seal) parts, though the rest might be fine. A bad clutch pack seal could lose pressure
    and fail to engage properly; maybe even burn up & ruin the trans. Bruce Roe
     
  9. btchnbug

    btchnbug Member

    fluid is good.level is a little low.
     
  10. Bigpig455

    Bigpig455 Fastest of the slow....

    Great transmission, worth every penny you might spend on it! Get the level where it needs to be and re-check. Dont let anybody talk you into replacing it with a regular TH400!

    I had problems when I put my ST300 back together because i didnt use a gasket between the case and valve body plate (long story) and it would lose line pressure there. Something to check if it comes out.
     
  11. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    There's only a few things you can do. Make sure that the vacuum modulator is good, it has a a leak free source of manifold vacuum. Take the pan down, and make sure the filter is connected properly, and the pick up tube is inserted into the valve body. I certainly wouldn't jump to the conclusion that it was rebuilt wrong.
     
  12. btchnbug

    btchnbug Member

    where can i get a pic of how the filter and pickup tube are supposed to look?

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    i would like to find some detailed pics of this car so ican make it right.
     
  13. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    Serious about keeping and working on your car? If you are, the very first thing you should buy is the factory service manual. THAT IS THE BIBLE FOR YOUR CAR. Pictures, and how to do ALL SERVICE on your car. It is a must have. Here it is on CD ROM, http://www.gearheadcafe.com/servlet/the-508/1966-Buick-shop-manual,repair/Detail

    Here is a reprint manual on E Bay, http://www.ebay.com/itm/1966-Buick-...anuals_Literature&hash=item53edaf3f3a&vxp=mtr

    The stock switch pitch transmission filter is different than the 68 and up filter. The pick up tube pushes in to the valve body and has an O ring seal. If you drop the pan, it will be very obvious whether it is in the valve body, or just hanging out. Be careful when you drop the pan. You could get a Dexron shampoo.

    http://www.buickperformanceclub.com/switchpitch.htm
     
    Last edited: Feb 27, 2013

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