7040246 with interesting sticker...thoughts?

Discussion in 'The Venerable Q-Jet' started by techg8, Oct 31, 2022.

  1. techg8

    techg8 The BS GS

    Ive got this 70 stage1 carb and I am having trouble deciding what to do with it.

    The original finish is really pretty good. I am afraid to clean it heavily for fear of damaging that original look. It has some really nice original features.

    The green dot sticker is in great shape.
    It has a really cool Rochester Products sticker on it that Ive not seen before - anyone know its significance?
    The windup spring retains some original blue finish
    the secondary shaft in the baseplate has green coating that is virtually unblemished.
    The steel pieces and linkages still have good original looking yellow chromate finish.

    However, the throttle arm has been cut, so I will need to replace it.

    If I start replacing original parts with replated parts, or replate the originals, it sort of starts the gravitational pull of a full restoration.

    I think I am going to carefully clean it up, trying not to disturb the originality. I want to keep the stickers unblemished. I will have to swap on a throttle arm in similar condition is all.

    Any thoughts on this? Am I crazy to want to keep it really original? what is that RPD sticker?
    Your input is appreciated.
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  2. Max Damage

    Max Damage I'm working on it!

    That looks like a cool time capsule for sure. I love the idea of cleaning it up and preserving the originality, then you can sell it to Jason! JK.
     
  3. CJay

    CJay Supercar owner Staff Member

    Thats a really nice carb. No idea what the sticker is. I would do a survivor rebuild on it leaving the original finish undisturbed for sure
     
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  4. David Hemker

    David Hemker Well-Known Member

    Nice piece indeed. If I am reading correctly the date code is the 245th day of 1970 which might make this a service carb which might explain the RP sticker that I do not recall seeing on other carbs. However, I could be all wet on this.
     
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  5. Dano

    Dano Platinum Level Contributor

    That makes sense. 245 is obv. too late to be an OE install.
     
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  6. 12lives

    12lives Control the controllable, let the rest go

    Very nice - question for the gang - the gasket that is hanging out - is that correct? is there a reason for that? I have a carb with that as well and I always wondered.
     
  7. charlierogers

    charlierogers GSX stage 1 4 speed #149

    its a nice clean carb if you are keeping it i would just fix whats broken and put a Quality rebuild kit in it. if you are gonna sell it i would just sell as is. not jumping on you jason but what is a survivor rebuild?
    charlie
     
  8. TORQUED455

    TORQUED455 Well-Known Member

    I wonder if the logo font is indicative of a certain time period? I'm guessing it's a little new for a 1970 carb. It reminds me of a "reman" sticker, but Rochester Products never rebuilt carbs. I think they were done through Delco, by an independent rebuilder.
     
  9. David Hemker

    David Hemker Well-Known Member

    The airhorn to main body gasket appears to have been changed somewhere along the way with a gasket from a bit newer model carb then not cut back enough to resemble the correct look. Many carb rebuild kits include extra parts (or at least used to). I have used left over gaskets from other rebuilds when only this gasket was needed to save the customer a few bucks.
     
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  10. hugger

    hugger Well-Known Member

    I've got one with that sticker it's a later model carb post 73 iirc
     
  11. Guy Parquette

    Guy Parquette Platinum Level Contributor

    Damn, you beat me to it!

    Pretty sure the term “survivor rebuild” is now obsolete. It was changed awhile ago. Correct name in use now is “Jason rebuilt”.
    Who is CJay?

    cool carb!
     
  12. Briz

    Briz Founders Club Member

    Not much in the know on these things but first thought is its a reman that was just lucky enough to get a 70 main body. The sticker might be from where ever it was put together.
     
  13. TORQUED455

    TORQUED455 Well-Known Member

    Although it might be just the pictures, but the zinc dichromate plating on the float bowl looks more like olive drab to me. Looks dark and thick. But who knows?
     
  14. gsfred

    gsfred Founders Club Member

     
  15. CJay

    CJay Supercar owner Staff Member

    Nah, just wanted a new name. More personalized...
     
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  16. hugger

    hugger Well-Known Member

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  17. GSX10/10

    GSX10/10 Well-Known Member

    I thought that performance carbs like the 246 had an angle vent? Maybe the air horn had been changed?
     
  18. Mark Demko

    Mark Demko Well-Known Member

    The “RP” sticker font looks like late 70’s early 80’s
     
  19. techg8

    techg8 The BS GS

    It cleaned up pretty well. nylon toothbrush with some penetrant scrubbed the carbon off. The steel pieces I put in the vibratory tumbler with some polishing media. I rebuilt it stock with the exception of .035 idle tubes and a .134" inlet seat.


    i have never seen 7/8"-20 inlet threads this clean. They are as new. Must not have seen much use at all.

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  20. Dan Healey

    Dan Healey Well-Known Member

    It was manufactured for a 1970 stage 1 factory installed, not service replacement. It HAS the 2 letter identifier, so i suspect it is a left over production unit that rochester sold as a service replacement (which could explain the rochester decal).
     

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