cam removal

Discussion in 'Small Block Tech' started by brblx, Feb 13, 2003.

  1. brblx

    brblx clueless

    time cover and chain is off, all that's left is part of the cam coming out of the front of the block. any guesses as to why i can only move it a little less than an inch before it gets stuck? everyone that has seen it and played with it has said that they can't see what it would be catching on, and that i should just pry it out.

    this is fine, as a different cam is going in, but i'm worried about damaging other things. i don't want to end up in the machine shop becuase i damaged a bearing prying the cam out. (or maybe a bearing is already damaged, which is holding the cam in...no idea)

    any suggestions?
     
  2. Mike Atwood

    Mike Atwood The Green Machine

    OK...this is really gonna sound bad......... but you did remove all the lifters and pushrods, didn't you? :Do No:


    Mike
     
  3. brblx

    brblx clueless

    yeah, all i've got is a block and rotating assembly.

    if i was that dumb at least someone would've smacked me in the head already. ;)

    the lifters were all fine, btw, and all the cam lobes look normal.
     
  4. rex362

    rex362 paint clear and drive

    look for maybe fallen bolts or washers...check inside... distributor area..:Do No:
     
  5. Mike Atwood

    Mike Atwood The Green Machine

    Only thing I can think of is maybe one of the cam bearings has slid out and hanging up on that??
     
  6. bignastyGS

    bignastyGS Maggot pilot

    I had a 68 engine that i was putting in my 71 that ran good. When I decided to put in a little bigger cam I had the same problem.I pryed on the cam but,It wouldn't move for anything.checked for anything that may have fallen in there but found nothing. sprayed penetrating fluid and still no go.I made a tool that had a long handle and a flat plate with holes so you could bolt it to the cam and it finally came out. Thats when I discovered that the cam bearings were shot.I decided to put in the 315 hp 350 that I had since I had to put in cam bearings I decided to overhaul this engine instead. My guess is, the bearings are bad.Do yourself a favor,IF YOU DO HAVE TO CHANGE THE CAM BEARINGS,GET TAs GROOVED BEARINGS.Part#TA 1559. WORTH THEIR WEIGHT IN GOLD. PRICE $49.95
    PAT :TU:
     
  7. 12lives

    12lives Control the controllable, let the rest go

    bearings

    So the bearings are worn and there is a lip or edge holding the cam in?

    - Bill
     
  8. axle1320

    axle1320 Well-Known Member

    Try rotating the crank a little bit.
     
  9. brblx

    brblx clueless

    it was the bearings.

    pry bar to the front wouldn't budge it...i ended up getting it out by sticking a chisel onto an exposed lobe in the lifter valley and forcing the cam foward. the bearings stayed in place, but they've got a good amount of wear and apparently the rear-most one has a big lip on it...i could get the new cam almost all the way in, but it would not even start to seat on the rear bearing.

    going to go ahead and pull the motor...an easy task at this point. i stood INSIDE the engine compartment and got all the bellhousing bolts off, i just need to get the starter and motor mounts now.

    don't have the money for machine shop work and a rering, so i'm going to hope the bottom end is still as sturdy as i think and just do the cam bearings, put the new cam, lifters, and pushrods in, clean and re-gasket everthing and replace misc external parts.

    do i really need the TA bearings in a mild build? i'm willing to pay the extra ~25 bucks or so over parts store replacements, but i don't have much time to wait on parts to come.
     
  10. bignastyGS

    bignastyGS Maggot pilot

    cam bearings

    David,
    You don't necessarily need the grooved bearings(The originals lasted this long)but,I'm putting them in since I am doing a complete rebuild on the engine. Since it is a pain to put the bearings in(engine removal ,dissassembly,down time,etc.)It is a better idea to do it once. Plus, I have read and heard all positive results from this. If you do decide to put stock bearings in they will do just fine as long as the engine is in good condition.As far as shipping, I just ordered a 3 inch ehaust from TA and was told I will get it in a week. Not too bad.My opinion(only a suggestion)is its worth the wait since it also helps with the oiling too. Whatever you decide,you should be ok though.
    Pat ps,Good luck. :TU:
     
  11. FJM568

    FJM568 Well-Known Member

    Try getting them from Tri-Shield...They should be a little closer to you than trying to get them from TA across the country...The cam bearings are the same for the 400-430-455 as they are for the 350...
     

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