Can I use any 455 block with 72 Stage 1 heads?

Discussion in 'Street/strip 400/430/455' started by cstanley-gs, Jan 13, 2010.

  1. cstanley-gs

    cstanley-gs Silver Mist

    I purchased a 72 Riv GS motor, that has a bad piston. My plan was to replace one piston and just get it going, but its proving difficult to find 020 over pistons.

    However I found a local guy with 2 455 motors.
    One is together missing intake and the other one is all apart.
    Both are 1241735 so are 72-76 blocks.

    My questions are

    1 - Can I use my 72 heads on any 72-76 block?

    2 - I have an aluminum edelbrock intake, but will any 72 - 76 iron intake work with the 72 heads if I decide to go that route?

    Im basically looking for a nice block and rotating assembly that I can use with the 72 heads to put together a modestly cheap motor until such time when I can do a rebuilt.
     
  2. cstanley-gs

    cstanley-gs Silver Mist

    I confirmed one block is a 73 (by the VIN - 43H461827)
    Waiting on confirmation of the other block
     
  3. cstanley-gs

    cstanley-gs Silver Mist

    No one? LOL

    Hopefully 72 heads can work on a 73 block with a edelbrock intake?
     
  4. 70455ht

    70455ht Well-Known Member

    I can't see any reason why the 72 455 heads couldn't be used a 73 455 block.
     
  5. 68Rivi_In_Cali

    68Rivi_In_Cali Well-Known Member


    Yea I'm pretty sure youn can make it happen, Those already have the smog holes EGR stuff, but your intake will cover it, make sure you get the right intake gasket though, as for the heads, not too sure but there really shouldnt be any reason for them not to bolt on
     
  6. Tony Rossini

    Tony Rossini Well-Known Member

    The 72 heads will work on any 455 block. Im almost positive any 72 to 76 intake will work on 72 heads. 71 and 70 455 uses a different intake gasket.
    Hope this helps,
    Tony
     
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  7. cstanley-gs

    cstanley-gs Silver Mist

    Thanks everyone!
    I have not confirmed the year of the second block this guy has... but I know its 72-76.
    Im thinking I'll be taking a little road trip to take a look at them.
     
  8. Turbo455

    Turbo455 James

    If the heads are double scallop and the block is single scallop then it will not work unless you plug one of the holes in the head. I believe if you put earlier heads on later block it is no problem. Check out post number 113 on this thread to understand what I am talking about.
     
  9. DaWildcat

    DaWildcat Platinum Level Contributor

    From Greg Gessler's website:

    • 1967 thru early 1972 head castings can be installed on late 1972 thru 1976 blocks. Just be sure NOT to use the steel shim head gasket
    • Late 1972 thru 1974 heads can be installed on 1970 thru early 1972 blocks, IF the center two, round coolant passages are plugged in the head.
    Devon
     
  10. Turbo455

    Turbo455 James

    Just to clarify two center passages means one on each head=2
     
  11. cstanley-gs

    cstanley-gs Silver Mist

    Ok... so if I read this correctly...

    "early 1972 head castings can be installed on late 1972 thru 1976 blocks. Just be sure NOT to use the steel shim head gasket"

    These heads were on a 72 861 block.

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    Is it safe to assume the heads are "early" 72's?

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    There are no passages where the scallop(s) are on the block. So it seems these heads could be used all 72 and up blocks - provided felpro (non steel shim) head gaskets are used.

    Seems right. I had to think it out and type it with pictures to confirm. :beer
     
  12. cstanley-gs

    cstanley-gs Silver Mist

    To add further clarification and for anyone else thinking about the same there, here's a 72 vs 73 heads. On the 73's you can see the 2 water passages that will dump coolant into the valley

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  13. cstanley-gs

    cstanley-gs Silver Mist

    One question.. just out of curiosity.

    Whats so different about steel shimmed gaskets and why cant they be used? Its not that I want to or plan to use this type, but just curious...

    Turns out both the blocks the guy has are 73's so Im hopefully going to strike a deal with him tomorrow..Then try to get them home in the back of my explorer! :Do No:
     
  14. DaWildcat

    DaWildcat Platinum Level Contributor

    The old steel shim gaskets will not seal the two side-by-side coolant holes shown in the 2nd pic at 6 o'clock. The aftermarket gaskets cover these holes.

    Devon
     
  15. 72gsBuick

    72gsBuick Never Say Never..

    question for you. i have a set of 661 casting heads, which tell me its a 71 head, also 71 455 block, im using the thin steel head gaskets will there be a problem.
     
  16. DaWildcat

    DaWildcat Platinum Level Contributor

    Should be no problem. Inspect the parts vs the above pics for insurance.

    Devon
     
  17. 72gsBuick

    72gsBuick Never Say Never..

    ok, thanks devon. i figured you chimed inn. thanks to all and good luck.
     
  18. cstanley-gs

    cstanley-gs Silver Mist

    Well I did it... Got both 73' 455's for $180

    One is all complete minus intake and carb

    The other is fully disassembled. The block has rust on the cylinders but should clean up with boring, but I wont use this block. (well maybe just as a mock up block for engine test stand)
    This block came with really nice valve covers, and oil pan which I will use. All the pistons are there, crank, cam, oil pick up etc.

    I plan to use the one that's all together as the base for use with my 72 heads and Edelbrock Intake. I have a carb off a sbb to use for testing on an engine stand (currently under construction). I'll plan on a 800fcm at a later time when Im closer to getting this in the car.

    Im being as frugal as I can on this build... and once tested, then I'll go for a final tear down, and new water pump, timing chain, a good cleaning and a fresh coat of Buick red :laugh: Oh yeah.. and a professional inspection and clean up of the Heads. Wish me luck!
     

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