Compression ratio question

Discussion in 'Street/strip 400/430/455' started by jr_, May 18, 2022.

  1. Jim Weise

    Jim Weise EFI/DIS 482

    rule of thumb.. 10-1 with no more than .010 deck clearance for 91/93 octane pump gas and iron heads. You won't be able to use a flat top piston for that.

    You get much away from those specs, and your going to be building a very detonation sensitive engine.

    I am not saying you can't do it, but your going to spend a lot of time fooling around with it, to make it not detonate under all conditions. It's going to be very temperature and fuel sensitive.


    JW
     
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  2. Stevem

    Stevem Well-Known Member

    It’s a lot more the just a good chamber design that has little to no vortex’s in it !
    You would be very surprised how the much the falunted full radius valve job contributes to the fuel falling out of suspension and then you get terrible wet flow conditions which then leads to ping and knock when pockets of fuel and air light off at different times.

    This condition totally counter acts the power that the air flow gain should provide from a full radius valve job!
     
  3. hugger

    hugger Well-Known Member

    That's how my brother's old engine was,..very temperature sensitive never had one that acted like it did
     
  4. jr_

    jr_ Well-Known Member

    I assume that’s why the diamond pistons are dished? 19cc? Do you know the specs of those pistons entirely?

    is there something unique to the 455 that makes it so temperamental?

    thanks for all the replies :)
     
  5. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    The Diamond pistons that Jim sells are customizable for bore size, compression height, and dish cc. Compression height dials in deck height, and dish cc dials in your static compression ratio.

    https://www.v8buick.com/index.php?threads/your-new-diamond-pistons.181425/

    See Post #4
     
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  6. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    There is nothing about the 455 that makes it temperamental. Any engine can have detonation problems for the same reasons.. You can build them to minimize the problem.
     
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  7. jr_

    jr_ Well-Known Member

    Right. I was talking with racetec to get a set for a 4.350 bore, 3.95 stroke, 6.8 rod, and a 10.55 deck height, and my irons measured 71cc. For flat tops I needed to be at least .040 in the hole to get to get the 10.6. Obviously, that seemed a bit high for pump gas premium.

    I noticed the diamonds many here use are dished. So my question would be what is the approximate cc for the dish to get close to 10:1 and zero deck?

    thanks again :)
     
  8. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    10.6:1 may not be too high depending on the cam. Aluminum heads can easily tolerate 10.5 -11:1 static compression, again, depending on the cam. Dynamic Compression Ratio. Read up.

    http://cochise.uia.net/pkelley2/DynamicCR.html

    25cc dish will get you a little over 10:1

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