Electric fuel pump recommendation

Looking to go electric... Have heard mixed reviews from locals in regards to the Holley and Mallory pumps. Have heard generally good things about the little Carter electric pumps. Now I'm looking for real first hand opinions! Planning on running some sort of return style regulator while I'm into this little project too. My goals arent too lofty either... Just looking to get the car into the high 12's.

thanx


ps. I'm NOT using mechanical so don't suggest it! :error:

 

I'm sure other people with have different opinions but I've used my Mallery comp. 140 series for three years now and have had no problems. It is a little quieter than most too. It's been pretty reliable for me. Good luck with your selection.:TU:
John

 

I might suggest you look at TA's new mechanical pump, or the new one we are putting together at TSP.. Mike's is a nice cast pump, which should handle up to 500-550 HP, with upgrade fuel lines and pickup assembly.

We are working on one that will feed virtually anything.. it's a billet pump, and one heck of a nice piece of equiptment, for those who want serious reliability and need the volume, and don't mind spending what it takes to get a piece this nice.

I plan on doing some testing on both of these pumps shortly, compared to a STG 1 mechanical.

If you go electric, make sure you buy on that is rated for constant duty, if we are talking a street car here. I spent way too much time and money (mine) on a couple of customer's cars in the last two years, trying to get the quieter pumps to live, with very little long lasting success, when they are pumping serious volume.

That's why the quest for a mechanical fuel pump, since every one of the motors in our engine program needs a bigger pump than the STG 1 factory pump.

JW

 

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Check out Product Engineering for a electric pump that will live..

Plan on spending around $300+, and living with some noise.

JW

 

Ok Jim, whats the story with your "billet" pump? As of tonight I'm not likely to ever put another Mr Gasket (aka 7-8 psi 80gph cast pump) on the car again. First one lasted as far as the first trip through the gears. Actually only got about 4000 rpm into second when the car fell on its ass from lack of fuel. Called Mr. Gasket customer service, (lifetime warranty!) sent it back, few days later they send me a new one. Put that one on last week and flogged the car up and down the road a dozen times and it ran like a champ. Went to test and tune at the local track tonight and I got to call AAA for a tow when it left me stranded (only got 9/10'ths of the way to the track I might add)... I'm a pretty forgiving guy but I don't forgive stranded situations very well.... So I'll be sending this one back and I'll ebay the P.O.S. or something creative... Maybe poke some 30-06 size holes in it next spring:Brow:

Anyway, get me some info on this pump of yours. Need a test subject, I'm your man!:TU:

And yes if possible I need an electric pump that I can count on for trips to Norwalk, Canton, Bristol, wherever I get the urge to go! If thats not going to be an option then I guess I'll pull out the spare stg1 pump I have in the basement to get me through the winter.

regards

 

Ken,

I will snap some pics of it, and post specs tomorrow..

Maybe put it all on my website for TSP... if I can remember how to update it...ou:

Not enough hours in the day..

JW

 

Dang... took the pics, and left the camera at the shop...

Look for info tomorrow night ( gotta put a quarter panel on a GS convert tomorrow, and get a new motor running...)

But I will stay up tomorrow night to get that info to those who are waiting..

Thanks guys.

JW

 

Don't use the Holley blue or red pumps. they are way loud!! Sounds like you are grinding coffee under the car!! I know you said no mechanical pumps, but I just saw a new mechanical pump, i think it was at TA...

Bob

 

Ken, ck this out! Wow!:eek2: http://www.trishieldperf.com/prod04.htm

 

I've run a mallory 140? for the past 5 years.....thats prolly 3000-5000 miles per year with a good mix of street / highway / and racing (mostly street and highway). I had a holley first, for about a week, until I couldn't stand the noise.

The mallory certainly isn't quiet, and I even made isolation dampened mounts, but its alot better than the holley.

Now that I've seen Jim's new billet mechanical Im seriously thinking about it now :Brow:

 

I hear you Alan.. I had a couple of Mallory's that lasted a long time, never a problem.. but in the last couple years, we went thru 5 of them on two different cars, until we finally went to the Holley pumps on those two cars.. now, a year later, no fuel system issues at all, besides the noise.

The Billet pump project was brought about by that fun.. I was not going thru that again.

JW

 

Interesting Jim - do you think they changed the pump recently and its affected the quality ??

Only problem for me and your billet pump is I now have 1/2" line plumbed up the passenger side and up before the control arm.....

I'd have to re-plumb to get it over to the stock location

 

Hey fellas,

Since the charger install (and a bit before) I've been running the Aeromotive A1101 pump. It's quiter than the Holley Blue but you can still here it. It's a big pump and will supply 500lbs an hour at 45PSI. It will also support 1200hp :eek2: Here's a link to it for 289 through summit......

http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?part=AEI-11101

You will need a bypass style regulator with this pump.

 

Well, something happened...

Which cost me about $1500 all toll..

Not very happy about it.. sure wish we would have had the billet pump back then, I could have put one on the motor, and 1 in the trunk of both these cars, and been money ahead..

Live and learn..

 

Electric mayhem

Talk about having AAA come to the rescue!!!
I went thru 2 MALLORY 140 units in days! they laid down sooo bad that a moped could out run me.
Changed to a Holley blue pump.VERY LOUD but reliable and works.
That new mechanical pump is for MEEEEEEE ! Put one aside I'm changing over.
GB
:beer

 

Hey, Ken. Sorry, slow to respond as was out of town. You might look at a Mallory110 backing up the Stg 1 mechanical. It's quiet (you can hear it if the radio is off and you're listening for it, but that's it) and puts out 7lb's + at the carb at all throttle points. The 110 is less likely to blow the mechanical pump than the 140. Use a small glass filter and mount in the axel well bolted through the floor of the trunk. Had mine on about a year with zero problems. Good luck! Jack

 

Mallorys seem to have a problem if they are mounted high above the pickup. They don't pull as well as the Holley blue pump.
I have a holley blue now that is way too loud. I am replacing it with TSPs new billet pump.

 

Jim Weise

Check out robertpowersmotorsports.com then click the tech link then the GM electric in tank pump link. This is a marriage of the GN pump setup and a carb. I am going to use it with the Racetronix kit. What do you think of this setup for a primarily street driven car with goals of going 115 to 117 in the quarter. It should be quiet, reliable and supply cool fuel. I don't see any downsides yet.

I take that back the only downside I see yet is that you have to be able to use a GN tank or cut your existing tank if you are not running a G-body. Then again maybe somebody will eventually make and market a solution for that.

 

How about this one,Walbro GSL392 70 gph, or 800hp.

 

The above Walbro will definitely need a regulator, due to it's high pressure relief.

One that won't is the AC Delco EP247, GM 25115899, Airtex E84070, or Master E84070. It is a 72 gph (freeflow) and 7 psi shutoff pump. It is an inline, external, rotary electric pump.

It is $65 from gmpartsdirect.com, $70 from Autozone, and $90 from Advance Auto.

72 gph is good for 850 hp.