floor tile help needed

I am replacing my vinyl flooring with tile Maybe. I had an unfortunate accident just after I bought a new refigerator in July. Upon moving the refigerator in they tore up my floor. So now they are paying for it. I got an estamite yesterday but I felt a little funny about the deal. The guy stated he could pull up the vinyl fooring and replace it for a set cost. Then he mentioned he could lay ceramic tile over the existing vinyl. To be honest I do not know if this is exceptable or not. Is Laying tile over the existing vinyl floor ok?

Thanks guys

 

What he would really do/should is nail some wood over the vinal first. Alot of people even do that for just a new vinal floor. They make a real nice thin/smooth wood just for the job.

Usually you put the wood down with screws and then use a type of filler to level the floor surface even more and make it really smooth. Then lay down new vinal sheet, or cermaic or vinal tiles.

Kinda like a roof job. Its easier and cheaper to go over the old one once then to remove it all.

 

Cost wise, he stated the same thing. It would cost more to remove and replace the vinyl flooring than to upgrade the floor with tile just due to the amount of labor it takes to removed the vinyl floor and then float it (leveling).

 

Depends

Ceramic cannot be (or should not anyway) be glued directly to vinyl flooring. It won't stay in place and you'll end up with problems.

The best underlayment for tile is a cement board. This is really important if the floor might get wet (soaked, not just little spills). If the substrate is wood/vinyl/luan plywood (sounds like what this contractor is proposing) it is important that the floor has no flex or "bounce". If the substate can move at all you will get cracked and flaking grout or even broken tiles.

I think you'll be fine putting the underlayment on top of the vinyl as long as the floor is solid. Make sure they glue and screw the heck out of it to make it as solid as it can be!

 

thanks John!

 

Phil Forget putting ceramic over the vinyl---underlayment or not--- you're going to feel quite a bit taller after you get all those layers in there and consider the transition into the carpeted area.

This is no different than a nice paint job---strip it to bare concrete and then you won't have to worry about what's going to happen a year from now when the floor guy is long gone and nowhere to be found! Patton

 

John the substrate is concrete.

Patton thanks for your input also.

 

Hell let's strip it and hit it with some build primer---you can get some practice for the car!

 

which car?:Brow:

 

Ditto what Patton said, and it could be worse. If you have any undercounter appliances (dishwasher, etc.), you may have problems with clearances (between top of appliance and bottom of countertop) after the "build up". Always best to go down to the original surface if you can.

 

Hey !! you're gonna tile your car ?? COOL !!! dont' think I've ever seen one of those on Ebay .......Yet:grin: