Going home last night after watching the superbowl at my brothers house. thank God I didn't have a drop of alcohal to drink :shock: . He said the reason he stoped me was for lisens plate light was out but I felt like there was more to it then that , when he walk up to the car and saw that I had my two kids with me a 6 & 4 year old and not a car full of drunk teens his whole deminer changed he told me to get the light fixed and let me go. I think he was hoping for a dui . I can't help but feel that if I was driveing my wifes wagon he would of never pulled me over I guess I know what it feels like to be profiled. ( Hispanic in a hot rod after the superbowl )
It's funny you mentioned the wagon.That's the reason I drove my wifes wagon (with my 10 & 12 year olds) to watch the game.I don't know if it's so much profiling as that our cars just draw attention.I know alot of cops are into older cars and they notice them (can be good and bad obviously).It was torture for me because it was a summer like day here and the top should have been down.Anyway I hope you're wrong ,(but you never know) and props to you for being a responsible pop.
Of course not, the wagon's license plate light is probably working. :laugh: I don't think I'd be so quick to say he was profiling you. Super Bowl Sunday is one of their busiest days of the year for DUIs (and from what my high school history told me the busiest day of the year for spousel abuse). Yesterday the cops were looking for any reason at all to stop people and check them out.
The first time I got pulled over in my '73 I thought for sure he was going to give me a hard time for having an '87 inspection sticker in 2002. The car had historic plates on it and I figured he didn't notice (in New Jersey that means no inspection needed). He was standing in the center of an intersection directing traffic and waved me to the side. I was thinking," here we go, probably a trigger happy rookie." He walks over to the car and says, I hope I didn't scare you, I just wanted to check out your cool car!":laugh: I replied by saying, "damn man, you scared the crap out of me!"ou: Steve
cops tend to pull people over for small stuff like that, because it can usually leads to more serious charges.
i can vouch (sp?) for that one. i was pulled over for expired tags and ended up going to jail. by the time it was all said and done i hade 6 or so tickets and a lawyer. i was 19 and driving an 89 mercury topaz @ 2:20 in the morning. i got a .02 violation among other things. i blew a .021
Thankfully I've only been pulled over once in the last 10 years or so. At the time I had my 1970 Maserati Ghibli. I don't think he liked my license plates (COP TEZR (cop teaser))!
My younger brother in law got pulled over by a state trooper. The trooper came over the PA and said "driver...step out of the veh", so he got out. "Driver step to the rear of the veh and face forward", so he did. "Driver...get down on the ground, hands behind your head", oh crap, what the heck is going on. Now cars are slowing down and staring at him laying on the ground. The trooper gets out of his car and walks up behind him and kicked him square in the behind and yells "get your stupid --- up fool!" So B.I.L. gets mad and rolls over and looks up and the trooper is an old friend he graduated high school with!:laugh:
Speaking from a retired cops point of view. Profiling why yes. Everyone under the sun does so, no matter what profession they are in or what race they are. And if they tell you they don't they’re lying. But publicly stated, no one under the sun profiles. Oh and for the record, I am Hispanic and yes I did profile people frequently. I feel it’s not a bad thing, and sometimes it can save your life. What is bad is the actions after doing so, that determines if one is an abuser / complete racist butt hole. I always say it is possible to profile while still treating people with great respect, not degrading them. That is the difference between a professional and a jerk off. Now think of your situation this way. Good thing he is on the road. Your driving home in your restore classic Buick and some dip sh%t drunk runs a stop sign and slams into you with your family and your Buick. Not good, especially in a car with 30 plus years of outdated vehicle safety standards. Bottom line, he saw an old car which he relates into a hot rod, figures just what you said, a bunch of drunks in a car. But what made this guy professional is that his attitude changed once he saw the occupants. He cannot tell you the real reason for stopping you (because of the ACLU, accused profiling etc.) so he tells you your plate light is out. If it wasn't he could say it was flickers bad connection, or any multitude of minor BS excuses. Bottom line you’re a good guy and he has no beef with you, he's out for the drunks. He's out fishing and your not what he is looking for. Now if he broke your balls in front of your family during that same car stop, then I would say he is larger than large of a horse’s ass. But it seems his intentions are for getting dui's which is fine with me. I have seen way too many people killed in dui accidents, and sadly in most accidents the drunk always survives. Case in point check this link out: http://www.angelfire.com/ca/mineryhomepage/67accident.html
Now thats just damn funny. I bet you he was happier than ever to see it was a friend just messin with him. And, oh yeah it's profiling. Not racial, (I'm white) but for driving something old school. I got pulled over 7 times in the first two weeks of owning my 4dr. Most of the time it was under cover narcs. Every cop that sees my vehicle pulls me over, pulls us out, pats us down, and searches the whole vehicle. They never give any tickets though. (thank god) Just because I drive a beat down oldie through a crappy neighborhood doesn't mean i sell crack, geeze... :rant: But after the local boys all had their turn I guess they all know I'm clean, since I rarely ever get pulled over now. Oh well, it's for the better I guess.
Your right Rick , When the officer was looking over my my paper work my son started to cry I guess the little guy got a little nervous with all the lights and stuff . I guess I was a little bothered to have to go through all that for nothing, but onece we got home I talk to my son and told him that the police man was only doing his job and was keeping every one safe on the road.
the real reason he pulled you is because cops have NOTHING to do half of their shift. they have to CREATE a crime,because crime is actually down in this country. when Clinton hired 100,000 cops in the 90's,he didn't say anything about what they would do,whice means they have to FIND CRIME ANYWHERE.
You are?! I thought you were Rocklandic!! :laugh: I'm not sure I wanna hang with you any more! :moonu: (For those of you who don't know Rick personally, he's from Rockland County, NY) Anyway, on a more topical note.....Engie Bauza and I were hauling my racecar home from Bowling Green back in '97 and we got pulled over on the Blue Grass Parkway in Kentucky. There has never been any doubt in my mind we were profiled. There was a State Trooper parked in the median and Engie, who was driving, waved at him as we drove by. Just a friendly wave, but the first thought that popped into my head was that we're gonna get pulled over now. (BTW, I'm White, Engie's Puerto Rican) I figured, to the Trooper, it looked like a Mexican driving a crappy, rusty, brown and beige '79 Suburban pulling a shiny brand new enclosed trailer and he wanted to see if we had a stolen trailer, full of illegal immigrants! Sure enough, a few miles down, he pulled us over and called on the p.a. for the driver to come to the rear. He asked Engie what he was hauling, and Engie told him a racecar. He asked him to open the trailer, to which Engie replied, the guy in the passenger seat owns the truck and trailer and he's got the keys. I grabbed the keys and hopped out and walked back to the trailer and noticed he lightened up a bit when he saw me. I opened the side door, he looked inside and said "You sure do have a racecar there, don't ya?" He told me he was assigned to "Commercial Vehicle Enforcement" and, because it's illegal in Kentucky to, for instance, move furniture for hire on Sunday, he was checking us for that sort of thing. If we were moving our own furniture, it would be ok, just not for hire. Once he saw the racecar, he said sorry for the inconvenience, and sent us on our way. I still think he thought the trailer was stolen and full of Mexicans!! o No:
me and a buddy were riding back through Jonesville, MI on US 12 after visiting another friend of ours in East Lyon. we were in Lou's father's truck (90's Dodge Dakota with a topper) and i was riding shotgun. it was getting towards dusk so Lou had the lights on. Lou is doing maybe 2 mph over the limit and we pass a cop. the gumballs go on. we're both like, wtf? so we pull over. cop comes up and asks for license / registration / etc. and tells us that he pulled us over because one of the headlights is out. now, Lou is something special. he was going to England in February to hang with a chick he met on vacation in Mexico so he hadn't bothered to renew his license (this was Jan and the license expired at the end of Dec). AND. he kept everything in his wallet (it was literally 2+ inches thick) ... but he would swap his license in and out it depending on if he thought he needed all the extra 'stuff' and he'd just carry his license seperate. well, boy genius that he is, Lou had forgotten to put his license back in the wallet. so, he rattles off his license number and the cop goes back to his car and checks in. he comes back to the truck and tells Lou that his license has been expired for 2 weeks and that's a ticketable offense. and that driving without a license is a ticketable offense. and that driving with a headlight out is a ticketable offense. and that because he has three ticketable offenses he HAS to take Lou to jail. :shock: so he has Lou get out of the truck AND HE PUTS CUFFS ON HIM ... for both of their safety. :dopeslap: :shock: :rant: so the cop has ME drive the truck, following him to the county seat in Hillsdale so i can post bail for Lou. OMGWTFBBQ11111!!!11 :rant: :rant: :rant: :rant: :rant: :rant: so they do the whole booking/fingerprinting/mug shot thing while i stop by an auto parts store and get a new bulb and i come back in a 1/2 hour and wait for Lou to get processed out. now, even though Lou got arrested because there were "3 violations" the cop only wrote him a ticket for expired license. so we get back to town and the next day Lou get's his license renewed, drives back to Hillsdale and the Sheriff's office and shows them that he's renewed his license and they drop the only charge against him. :shock: :rant: keep in mind, this was a couple of white bread (no criminal record apart from old speeding tickets), white boys in their 30's. yeah, the cop was kind of young but still ... what a frickin moron. which is not to say that Lou is not capable of exceptional moronity but holey cow man
We moved to a new home in a new area last year. I have a cruise route I like to drive my GSX on because it runs along the shore of Lake Michigan. One day last summer I was driving on it and noticed a police car behind me. He followed me for about 5 minutes which seemed like forever and then he puts his lights on. I pulled over and he quickly got out of his car and shouted: "You're not in any trouble... I just want to ask you if I can see your car. I love GS's and have never seen a GSX in person". He was a pretty cool guy and he spent a lot of time checking out the car and talking Buick GS's! :beer
Whatever, you have no freaking clue. I am a cop, right here in your neck of the woods...so why do you hate us so much? Do you have a history of running into us or is there some other underlying reason for all the animosity? By the way, what do you do for a living? Also, what part of town do you live in because I want to move there...where there is no crime! By the way, watch out for those cops who have nothing better to do when your cruising around in that red W-31, Andy. :shock:
Let's be real here. First off Clinton didn't hire any cops. It was Federal funds going to the city agencies which in turn should have used it for hiring And as we all know when politicians get a hold of cash it seems to go in a thousand other directions before it reaches if ever its original cause. Its the old vote for me shell game, and that’s fact Pal! Now your first comment is so way out of line I won't even address it. Just not worth my "nothing to do time" Only to ask, "were you ever locked up or gotten multiple tickets?" cause it sounds like you may have and been forced to swallow that bitter pill. Andy you gotta lighten up, all that hate will eat ya up. On a flip side here is a good story. Back in 1983 I was a NYCPD cop for two years. Was returning home from Florida with two other friends. One was driving my car (1982 Mustang GT) as I was sleeping in the front seat. It was around 3:30am. My friend was careful driving through Georgia. Once in South Carolina he opens her up a bit. Well we got stopped for doing 81. Two local cops (not State Police) poaching (as I call it) on the highway. The heavier one (fat one) told us to get out of the car. We did. The skinny one then racked the shotgun he was holding while facing us some 5 feet away. There wasn't a soul on the road driving this time. The fat one stated, and I quote! "I got you doing 81, it's a 45 dollar fine or $45 dollar bail, cash!" I swear to God this is a true friggin story. My friend turned to me saying my name and expecting me to say. High guys I'm on the job, and flash my shield. Well I looked around saw no one but us and the 2 cops, and envisioned my car getting towed and us spending a few days in a local jail waiting for Jethro the Judge to return from fishing in the morning and then turned to my friend and said, and I quote! "Pay the man!" He did and we were out of there in a flash, no recipt no ticket! I guess we just bought them breakfast! Sometimes you have to remember, common sense goes a long way. Bottom line that guy wouldn't of given a rats ass who I was. Discretion! Arguing would have gotten us nowhere but in deep poop. Point is, in every profession, doctors, lawyers, auto mechanics etc, the majority are honest good people, but you'll always get those few bad apples in the bunch. And depending on the situation, it is sometimes better to just roll with it and get the hell out of Dodge!:laugh: Oh and Dougy Poo, with a name like Martinez you can stick me smack in Beverly Hills, and I will still be classified as a minority. Not my doing, and not my wanting, it’s just how the system works. And living in Rockland I was made more aware of it than I was while working 20 years in the South Bronx, funny though I was called a spic in Rockland many times while growing up, and yet in the Bronx I was called a cracker. You gotta laugh I just can't win sometimes:laugh:
Bob, sorry I just have to add...did they make him pick up the garbage too(Alice's Restaurant song):laugh: All kidding aside that does get under my skin because guys like that would make my job tougher as people then lose faith in the police.
Not a story involving cars...but cops... a lot of them... My wife called me one day as I was driving home (5 minutes from the house, returning from a trip to Iraq) stating a large (8-10) group of cops was there to serve a search warrant. Suspicion of drug sales. (haahahahahah!!). I told her to let them search, they can take anything they want- i'll be home in 5 minutes- She calls me back and tells me they left, and they'll come back when I'm home- ODD....but true... a month goes by...I forget about it... One night a few weeks ago, someone was banging on my garage door at about 9pm. I tell my daughter to open the door. She looks at me and slowly says..."Dad....its for you..." I get up..who the fu#$ is coming over this late....I step into the garage... ENTIRE FRICKIN SWAT TEAM. Ski mask, flak vests...semis..the whole 9 yards...like 15 of them. Serving a warrant, suspicion of drug sales. Whats that smell? My shorts. I tell them I'm in the military, and they can search whatever they want. I really don't have anything to hide. One of them hands me the warrant...wrong address goofball!! I point the cop to the house (around the corner and down the street...house got rushed, arrests were made, and I put on new shorts) They came back and apologized, thanked me for my service....and drove off. It was funny (after my heart rate returned to normal, three days later) :grin:
