how much is too much. We need tire bead screws

Discussion in 'Race car chassis tech' started by carmantx, Oct 18, 2009.

  1. carmantx

    carmantx Never Surrender

    We kept hearing people say you don't need bead screws unless you are doing 1.40 60' times.

    Tyler's best is 1.58. Here is how far his tire moved this weekend.

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    He will be getting new wheels this winter and screws will be going in to them.
     
  2. Joe65SkylarkGS

    Joe65SkylarkGS 462 ina 65 Lark / GN

    Absolutly screw them up!!!
     
  3. Tyler Northcutt

    Tyler Northcutt Just an old pile of parts

    This is probably why it didn't launch strait on a couple passes lol
     
  4. Joe65SkylarkGS

    Joe65SkylarkGS 462 ina 65 Lark / GN



    Dude that's a nice 60 ft!!!

    You pulling one or two wheels?
     
  5. Tyler Northcutt

    Tyler Northcutt Just an old pile of parts

    Got the left front up about a foot and half. right tire is firm on the ground. Got a good twist to it.
     
  6. Joe65SkylarkGS

    Joe65SkylarkGS 462 ina 65 Lark / GN

    Awsome!!! Any video?
     
  7. Tyler Northcutt

    Tyler Northcutt Just an old pile of parts

  8. Joe65SkylarkGS

    Joe65SkylarkGS 462 ina 65 Lark / GN

    Damn!!:af: I could only use you tube on my itouch!!:af:
     
  9. Tyler Northcutt

    Tyler Northcutt Just an old pile of parts

    The tire is coming back down in this picutre. (I think)

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  10. BQUICK

    BQUICK Gold Level Contributor

    A little movement on the rim can save your axles. I screwed mine and shortly after broke a stock axle spline (driver side) tunning 1.48 60 ft.
     
  11. 69GS400s

    69GS400s ...my own amusement ride!

  12. TomGS72

    TomGS72 Silver Level contributor

    Put screws in them. What if they start slipping more next time. Safety first!!!!
     
  13. 10sec 455

    10sec 455 Well-Known Member

    It's not the 1.58 60' thats slipping the tire, it's the chrome wheels. If you break the tires down and scuff the inner wheel lip real good they wont move anymore. On my white car I run low 1.30 with no screws and the tires don't budge.
     
  14. Tyler Northcutt

    Tyler Northcutt Just an old pile of parts

    We have Moser axles. I sure hope they won't break lol.
     
  15. Tyler Northcutt

    Tyler Northcutt Just an old pile of parts

    I am actually about to get some aluminum wheels from summit, I don't want to mess these up any. I will put them back on my GSX.
     
  16. carmantx

    carmantx Never Surrender

    Alan, Tyler is getting a drag bar this winter. We had all stock except for adjustable uppers and bags. Going to put the bar and good lowers in before next season.
     
  17. 68GS400Conv

    68GS400Conv Hunting for parts

    On my corvette I had to put screws in the wheels. I think torque has a lot to do with tire slippage on wheels. My first 3 passes I only had 1.90 60' times but the tires were moving 1.5" or more. The more passes I made back to back the worse it got. I put the screws in and no more problems, with tire slippage anyhow. :TU: Now it just spins through the 60'. I guess it'll take some tire pressure playing next season.
     
  18. GSWANNAB

    GSWANNAB Well-Known Member

    To screw or not to screw!

    To screw or not to screw!

    If you decide to add screw one thing to be careful with is make sure your screws are indexed meaning make sure the screws on each side of the rim are in the same place.

    Ive traced inconsistency problems down to that on a few cars.

    If you ever look at a tire wrinkle on launch the wrinkle starts at the screw, so if the screws arent indexed the tire tries to twist itself from different points.

    I hope this saves you guys some grief, I know it helped me.

    Rob
     
  19. 69GS400s

    69GS400s ...my own amusement ride!

    That H&R bar untwisted my pretzel - my avitar pic is before the install. Best 60' before the bar was a 1.76. Only ran it a few times this year with the bar added but I did click off a 1.69 and 1.68 now that the car is level and ran 2/100ths off my best ... in far from good air. Quite a few people are using the H&R bar specifically
     
  20. Tyler Northcutt

    Tyler Northcutt Just an old pile of parts

    I have been looking at Sohn Performance's rear drag bar. It welds on instead of bolting on.
     

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