My heads are going to the machine shop this week

Discussion in 'Small Block Tech' started by Mark Demko, Mar 12, 2023.

  1. Mark Demko

    Mark Demko Well-Known Member

    FINALLY!!!!!!!!!!
    Did everything I wanted to do to 'em, so off to Michaels they go for the valve job, milling the heads for more squeeze, and sizing the guides for the TA springs and seals on intake and exhaust.
    Im most stoked I actually found, in one place after a year and a half, all 32 valve locks!!
    It will be nice to drive the car this spring/summer, get to the track and see how she runs:D
     
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  2. Stage 2 iron

    Stage 2 iron Platinum Level Contributor

    Good luck, I hope it all works out for you !
     
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  3. Jim Nichols

    Jim Nichols Well-Known Member

    Attaboy Mark!
     
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  4. Max Damage

    Max Damage I'm working on it!

    Maybe if they have a flow bench, they can test your work?
     
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  5. Mart

    Mart Gold level member

    Good going!
    You could throw those keepers away and get new 11/32" stem valves, retainers & locks....:D
     
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  6. Mark Demko

    Mark Demko Well-Known Member

    Lolol I don’t wanna know:p:p
    I will say after doing these heads, it was interesting and learned it’s not hard to do, just tedious, being you can’t always see where the bit is cutting, and when you think you have the tool straight up and down your actually at an angle and vice versa, it’s VERY similar to doing bodywork, a lot of tool “English” is involved.
    Whoever says you “have to pay a head porter” to do your heads is full of it.
    I say do it yourself and save thousands and learn!
    I learned how much iron is under the spring seats on my other set of heads I ruined:D
    Yah learn a lot from doing stuff, breaking it and ruining it.
    You’ll never learn from having others do it for you:cool:
     
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  7. Mark Demko

    Mark Demko Well-Known Member

    HAHAHA, NOOOOOO:p
    I was so happy I found all 32 of ‘em!
    Years ago while changing springs on car, one of the locks went flying, I heard it land on metal on the passenger’s side.
    “I’m gonna find that SOB”
    I bought an inspection camera from Harbor Freight, went looking, found it on top of the frame rail just in front of the body mount on the passengers side:D
     
  8. Stevem

    Stevem Well-Known Member

    This is a rendering of a idealized Exh port and its shape very much resembles a nosssle .
    Note the Venturi shape that it has after the angles that make up the valve job.

    This is very important and unfortunately with the SB heads and there lack of short turn height forces you to use the valve job to form a Venturi as best as you can because there's no extra height to play with as in the idealized Exh port.

    Here is what your Exh side valve job should be if the shop you use can acomadate you .

    Note that both your Exh valves and Intake should get a 30 degree back cut.

    The back cut should leave your Exh valves with a.070" wide seat if the valves are new or in good shape.

    The Intake valves are ok with a back cut that leaves then with a .060" to .055" seat.

    Also note that used valves that have less then a.060" tall margin can be a flow disaster, especially with the Exh valves!
     

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  9. Mart

    Mart Gold level member

    Years ago, didn't Smokey Yunich use to advocate a full radius instead of multiple angles ?
     
  10. got_tork

    got_tork Well-Known Member

    Cool Mark. Did Micheal give you a time frame?I have 2 sets I need to get over there.
    Chris
     
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  11. Mark Demko

    Mark Demko Well-Known Member

    He said a few weeks, as there were a couple other machine shops that closed up and the work came to him.
    He’s not there on Saturday anymore, but he said he does work late, till 7:00, he said if the gate is open, I’m here! Come on in (for drop off only I’m assuming)
     
  12. Mark Demko

    Mark Demko Well-Known Member

    Had to bring in my old head to work to use my torches (which are normally at home) to heat up the exhaust crossover to get my pipe plugs out.
    Good thing I have a vehicle roomy enough to transport torches and welders around:rolleyes:
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  13. got_tork

    got_tork Well-Known Member

  14. got_tork

    got_tork Well-Known Member

    Looks familiar.Been working on mine before and after work in the shop when time allows
     
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  15. Mark Demko

    Mark Demko Well-Known Member

    Same here as time and weather allowed in my garage at home.
    Air tools get cold at 38 degrees :p:p
     
  16. Stevem

    Stevem Well-Known Member

    A full radius works great every time for the valve job on the exh side of any head, but it can be a big promoter on the intake side for wet flow issues which can cause ping, detonation and poor burn on heads that have not been designed with wet flow technology.

    The bottom line in terms of the intake side of a motor is that even though a full radius valve job might give you a few more CFM at high lift your better off in terms of heads that have not been aided by wet flow development to use discrete angles for the valve job since the sudden change in angle will shred wet flow stream conditions back into a more burnable mist.
     
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  17. Mart

    Mart Gold level member

    So fuel dispersion is still the goal.
     
  18. Stevem

    Stevem Well-Known Member

    I should have used the term atomized not mist, but yes that is the goal.
     
  19. Mart

    Mart Gold level member

    Mark,
    Steel shim or Fel Pro gaskets this time?
     
  20. Mark Demko

    Mark Demko Well-Known Member

    Fel Pro like last time.
     
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