Need to recharge an R12 system. Should I replace....

Discussion in 'The Big Chill' started by Electrajim, Jul 10, 2011.

  1. Electrajim

    Electrajim Just another Jim

    I need to recharge my R12 system on my 77 Electra.
    I'm pretty sure it needs recharging. It was working well, then short cycling, then quit all together. My questions are:
    Should I replace the orifice tube and drier?
    Should I have it evacuated, and checked for leaks?
    Should I look for a variable orifice tube, if I replace it?
    Should I just add some R12 and leave the system closed.
    What about an inline filter????

    Thanks, and stay cool! :bglasses:

    ElectraJim
     
  2. 71skylark3504v

    71skylark3504v Goin' Fast In Luxury!

    How about fix the leak, pump it down, and recharge?
     
  3. Electrajim

    Electrajim Just another Jim

    Yes, I could do _just_ that at a minimum, but I was wondering if there was any "while your at it's", I should do, for best cooling, and long life.

    ElectraJim
     
  4. Electrajim

    Electrajim Just another Jim

    Topped off with 2 cans of R12. Blows air in the 40's now.

    ElectraJim
     
  5. Briz

    Briz Founders Club Member

    Butttt how long will it last?
     
  6. telriv

    telriv Founders Club Member

    Everyone one adds freon when low but NEVER think about adding the lost oil that was also lost when freon leaked out. That's one reason A/C systems have catastrophic compressor failure. NO OIL!!!!! Add a few ozs. of oil now before the system self destructs.
     
  7. 71skylark3504v

    71skylark3504v Goin' Fast In Luxury!

    I disagree. I work on A/Cs for a (college) living and a full system leakdown will only lose enough oil to cause a stain. Not even enough to measure.
     
  8. telriv

    telriv Founders Club Member

    home & vehicle A/C's are different animals.
     
  9. SteeveeDee

    SteeveeDee Orange Acres

    The real problem with automotive AC is that the oil migrates from the compressor and collects at the low points throughout the system. I have a chart somewhere around here that tells how much oil to put in the system (R-12, don't know if it applies for TC-134A or these other new refrigerants but don't see why not) when changing out parts.
     
  10. 71skylark3504v

    71skylark3504v Goin' Fast In Luxury!

    In ways, yes. However, the same basic refrigeration principles and characteristics of Freon hold true.

    The real problem with automotive AC is that the oil migrates from the compressor and collects at the low points throughout the system. I have a chart somewhere around here that tells how much oil to put in the system (R-12, don't know if it applies for TC-134A or these other new refrigerants but don't see why not) when changing out parts.

    That's some good information.
     
  11. Electrajim

    Electrajim Just another Jim

    Ok, I'll check the oil....Now where's that AC system dipstick.... :pp
    Well, checking, changing, or adding oil to the system was one of those "while you are at it things" but it wasn't mentioned.
    Fortunately, one of those cans of R12 that I added has "blue dye" in it to check for leaks. I haven't seen any leaks yet, and I don't have visual evidence of oil leakage from the AC system anywhere, not even out of the front of the compressor.

    ElectraJim
     

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