New 470/482 Piston Options

Discussion in 'Street/strip 400/430/455' started by Jim Weise, Aug 28, 2017.

  1. Jim Weise

    Jim Weise 1000+HP

    Hi guys,

    In doing the new 482 combo, I decided to offer both a race piston, and a Street strip Piston. The race piston is a new version of our tried and tru Diamond 2618 piston, which we have used successfully now for the last 8 years in many 470 combo motors. It has these specs:

    4.350 bore
    1/16 compression and 3/16 oil ring
    (smaller rings with gas porting available at extra cost)
    Maxi-light ring belt and pin boss internal milling (aprox 615 G)
    .990 pin with dual spiral locks (.185 wall - 177g)
    Pin Fit
    No pin offset
    1.725 Compression distance
    Flat top with 9 CC valve reliefs. .300 deep to fit any cam or valve size.
    You may opt to go with a lighter tool steel pin at additional cost
    coatings are also available

    Cost is $779 for the set, with pins and locks

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    For the Street/Strip 470 and 482, I am now offering a 4032 material piston from Autotec.
    Recommended for Street use, with occasional trips to the drag strip- up to 600 HP

    4.350 Bore
    1/16 compression/3/16 oil rings
    25cc dish with valve reliefs
    Straight pins (no offset)
    4032 material
    1.775 (470) and 1.725 (482) Compression distance
    Pin fit with .990 pins (pins and locks included)
    Standard 1.85 wall pin
    weight (TBD)

    Cost is $679, that represents a $100 savings over the current 470 diamond piston (prices just went up)

    Any questions?.. just ask

    Thanks
    JW
     
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  2. BrianTrick

    BrianTrick Brian Trick

    Can they be made shorter,with a thinner stack,for longer rod or strokers?
    I run an .043,.043,3mm in my street and street-race engines. I also run a .927" Chevy pin.It allows me to have a very short piston,and not get into the oil ring. Has anyone done anything like that with a Buick?
     
  3. Jim Weise

    Jim Weise 1000+HP

    Sure, any CD you want, plenty of ring options available.

    Yes, there was a 7.1" rod 494 combo around for a while... I built a few of them.. that took a 1.335 CD. The consensus among most folks that ran that combo was that ring seal suffered from piston rock.. and most of us went back to the 6.700 rod, to keep some skirt on the piston. But some guys really love that light piston (534g rings a bell) and still run the long rod.

    On the buicks, because of the big bore, and "flexible" block, I am a fan of piston skirt.. I get less scuffing better ring seal, and longer engine life between freshen ups, even on the race motors. Just did a freshen 6.7" 494 after 9 seasons of racing, was very happy with how the bores and pistons looked.
     
  4. 300sbb_overkill

    300sbb_overkill WWG1WGA. MAGA

    Hey Jim, are the wristpins and rings included with the 4032 forged pistons?
     
  5. HotRodRivi

    HotRodRivi Tomahawks sighted overseas

    on the floating pins , which locks do you prefer? spiral, or regular ? Do either one of the two styles tend to dig into or wear the piston whare it rides in the grove?
     
  6. 87GN_70GS

    87GN_70GS Well-Known Member

    Waiting patiently on my 482 set
     
  7. Jim Weise

    Jim Weise 1000+HP

    Pins and locks with the pistons.

    I prefer the spiral locks, they dig into the piston much less than the dual tru-arc snap rings do.
     
  8. mbusher83

    mbusher83 Well-Known Member

    Me too!
     
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  9. RB Garner

    RB Garner Member

    Mr wise. if I wanted to purchase a set of the autotec street pistons. would I need to call the 1-800 number, your web site doesn't appear to support parts purchasing.
    one the 470 kits what con rods do you recommend.
     
  10. Jim Weise

    Jim Weise 1000+HP

    No 800 number, you can call me at 320-629-8999 or we can do the whole deal right on the board here, with a "conversation" which is private, or email me at jim@trishieldperformance.com

    The 470 piston is designed to work with any 6.8" long BBC rod, if you widen rod throws. Built the first 20 or so like that.. now we have a new BBB 470 rod from Molnar Technologies.. a superior piece, that is specifically designed to work in this combo.

    JW
     
  11. RB Garner

    RB Garner Member

    Thank you sir. So I take it they are 2.20 big end Does the crank throw still need widened to fit the Molnar rod.
     
  12. Jim Weise

    Jim Weise 1000+HP

    No, the new rod has our Buick width, that, and having the correct bank offset, are the differences between our 470 rod, and the BBC rods.

    JW
     
  13. sriley531

    sriley531 M.M.O.G.

    Jim,

    Would either of these pistons be ok for a street/strip setup that sees an occasional 150 shot of nitrous? (Just gathering ideas at this point)
     
  14. Jim Weise

    Jim Weise 1000+HP

    Ya, as long as that 150 shot does not turn into a 300 shot...:eek:o_O

    we should be just fine. I assume we are talking about a 450HP or so base build..
     
  15. sriley531

    sriley531 M.M.O.G.

    Haha, 300, fair play Jim. :D

    Afraid not on the 450hp, so I may have to explore other avenues. My current setup dyno'd comfortably over 500, and I want the next one to be a bit hotter.

    Thanks for the answer Jim, I'll do some poking around and get with you when the time comes, dont want to sidetrack the thread. I'm just in the early info gathering stages now.

    Back to your regularly scheduled program.....
     
  16. Jim Weise

    Jim Weise 1000+HP

    In that case, you need the 2618 Diamond piston for that combo. Not really that much more expensive in the grand scheme of things.

    I recommend these 4032 Autotec pistons for up to 600 HP street or street/strip applications.

    JW
     
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