Operating temperature vs power and longevity!

Discussion in 'Wrenchin' Secrets' started by 70sLark, May 7, 2009.

  1. 70sLark

    70sLark Well-Known Member

    Operating temperature vs power and longevity!

    http://www.carnut.com/ramblin/_cool3.html

    Took me months n month to find that again, we have several threads a month here about temp. Some only run a 195, some run much cooler.
     
  2. mainebuick

    mainebuick Well-Known Member

    That is an interesting subject. My temp stays around 165 when driving around, but I am staying with it for the hot days in traffic.
     
  3. 70sLark

    70sLark Well-Known Member

    Yea they make some good points in that article.

    I run a 180 in the Buick wagon but my 3rd gen V6 I run it at 165-170 as its runs much crisper at lower temps, when at 200-220 like stock it becomes a slug.

    Have tried running the Buick lower on temp wit ha 165 stat but notice no gains so I put in a 180 for that happy medium range.
     
  4. DaWildcat

    DaWildcat Platinum Level Contributor

    The key to running hot and fast is to keep the air/fuel mixture cool by ducting in outside air through a fully sealed air cleaner assembly. Better yet, ram air in from under the bumper or where the inboard headlights were for dual beam cars. What usually ruins everyone's day is running a hotter thermostat and then pulling in the hot air from under the hood.

    Another big help is an "air gap" type of manifold, but there's not much selection out there for our engines.

    Devon
     
  5. 71skylark3504v

    71skylark3504v Goin' Fast In Luxury!

    Me and Mark got air-gaps!:bla:
     
  6. 64Electra225

    64Electra225 Highway Bomber

    :bglasses:
    Nice information here.
     
  7. DaWildcat

    DaWildcat Platinum Level Contributor

    Of course, and it's a good first step! What are you running for fresh air?

    Devon
     
  8. 71skylark3504v

    71skylark3504v Goin' Fast In Luxury!

    Nothing, but I'd like to make a setup that draws out of the wheel well. However finding an air cleaner that has a drop base and would fit under my hood is the issue. I'm rubbing as it is.:(
     
  9. DaWildcat

    DaWildcat Platinum Level Contributor

    K&N's flow control air cleaner is the lowest I've found, and it's the only way I can close my hood. Looks like good engineering, too:

    http://www.knfilters.com/Racing/flowcontrol.htm

    I'm also looking into attachments that will allow two four inch ducts to feed the element, keeping it sealed from underhood air. I want to start with something like this but fully contain the element:

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    ...I'll post what I manage to find.

    Devon
     
  10. 73-462GS

    73-462GS GS Mike

    Do they make a flowcontrol for a quadrajet? Peace, Mike D.
     
  11. Furious_styles6

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  12. DaWildcat

    DaWildcat Platinum Level Contributor

    It seems not, unfortunately.

    Devon
     
  13. DaWildcat

    DaWildcat Platinum Level Contributor

    Last edited: May 20, 2009
  14. marvi

    marvi Member

    I bought one from Poston and can squeeze my little finger through the gap between the air cleaner housing bottom plate and cover. The spoiler and hoses are relatively OK, but the cleaner housing is unfortunately useless. I need to find or manufacture a new one.
     
  15. 70sLark

    70sLark Well-Known Member

    Yea for $300 ya would expect more, though id hate to ask how much for just the spoiler piece.
     
  16. r0ckstarr

    r0ckstarr Well-Known Member

    Same here. The Texas heat is murderous.
     
  17. DaWildcat

    DaWildcat Platinum Level Contributor

    Guys, unless a thermostat fails you can't blame it for an overheat issue.

    Even with a modest 15 lb radiator cap, the boiling point is already up to around 260° F with a 50/50 antifreeze/water mix.

    Once the 'stat is open, it's up to the rest of your cooling system to do its job. If you have a good 180° F thermostat and the engine heats up to 210°, you have radiator, water pump, fan, shroud or some other things to worry about.

    If the car keeps heading towards the boiling point, switching from a 180° to a 160° 'stat isn't going to make any difference.

    Devon
     

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