Overheating on h-way only

Discussion in 'Small Block Tech' started by 64specConvert, Jan 31, 2003.

  1. 64specConvert

    64specConvert Member

    Zoiks!!

    Can't get the 300 V8 in my 64 Special to stop overheating.
    This only happens on the highway going 60 or 65. For short distances around town, the temp gets a little threatening but never overheats.
    When you get off the highway, it seems to cool down as you drive at slow speeds. Fine at idle.
    Engine runs strong, accels well at all speeds.

    Car has:
    new water pump
    new thermostat (installed correctly)
    good hoses, fresh coolant

    Other notes:
    No bubbles in radiator or other signs of head gasket trouble
    Radiator is hotter in upper-central section. Poor circulation? Wouldn't this be a prob around town?
    Small tick sound (valve lifter?). Follows pace of engine RPMs. This only appears when car has been sitting for a week or is really hot. Quiets down the rest of the time.

    Suggestions?
    Thanks for reading,
    Michael
     
  2. 68 LeSabre 4dr

    68 LeSabre 4dr Well-Known Member

    overheating

    :Do No: LOOSE FAN BELT ? GLAZED FAN BELT?:Do No:
     
  3. 64specConvert

    64specConvert Member

    The fan belts are new with about a cm of play.

    Thanks,
    Micheal
     
  4. 68 LeSabre 4dr

    68 LeSabre 4dr Well-Known Member

    Antifreeze 50 / 50 mix.......... good heat in car ?.............. clogged heater core ? :confused:
     
  5. Nailhead

    Nailhead Gold Level Contributor

    Check ignition timing!
    John
     
  6. Mike Atwood

    Mike Atwood The Green Machine

    Sounds like either there is a restriction somewhere in the system..... system might need flushed, or there might be air trapped in the system.
    Do you have a direct drive fan or a fan clutch on it? Might be a bad fan clutch, and the fan might be free wheeling.


    Mike
     
  7. 64specConvert

    64specConvert Member

    Ok, I admit, the antifreeze mix may be a little haphazard. The car has some heat, but it's not as hot as the engine temp would make you expect. Since I just got this convertible (or rather, dug it out of a ditch in the Santa Cruz mountains) I don't know how hot it should be.
    But a clogged heater core doesn't stop the engine coolant from circulating, does it? I thought it was just a loop of circulation off the system.

    John, you're right, I really should get the timing precise.

    -Michael
     
  8. 64specConvert

    64specConvert Member

    Fan is direct drive, bolted to the water pump.
    The most recent thing I did was the thermostat, so I figured any air would have slipped out when that was opened up.
    After installing it, I just filled the system to the top, capped it, and drove around the block.
    Should I do something else to burp it?

    -Santa Cruiser
     
  9. Nailhead

    Nailhead Gold Level Contributor

    On some cars the heater core always has water flow thru it and is part of normal cooling system--air flow is diverted to turn heat on and off; I don't remember if this is true for 64 S/L??
    John
     
  10. 68 LeSabre 4dr

    68 LeSabre 4dr Well-Known Member

    . do you have a overflow bottle ? after filling radiator you need to run till thermostat opens , be sure coolant is flowing , add as needed then cap it up . if a overflow bottle is used, fill that to the proper line.:grin:
     
  11. 64specConvert

    64specConvert Member

    Ummm...
    the overflow reservoir actually isn't connected.
    The hose fitting on the radiator snapped off.
     
  12. 68 LeSabre 4dr

    68 LeSabre 4dr Well-Known Member

    when you installed the thermostat you said you filled , capped it closed. without a overflow bottle for the system to add or subtract as needed you have to fill , start engine ,watch level , watch flow , put cap on one click , let it idle 10 minutes or so check level. is that cap good , is it the correct cap for car ......................................................................................?? then when full tighten cap .
     
  13. dave64

    dave64 Well-Known Member

    Possibility of an air lock but after driving at highway speeds that should circulate the coolant and get rid of any air.
    Is the car actually overheating? If you have a guage it may not be accurate, bad sending unit etc..
    If the rad is original there could be enough corrosion build up internally that coolant flow is effected.
    Good idea to check hoses, especially the lower one. If the hoses are soft they can actually collapse and cut coolant flow to nothing. Lower hoses often have a wire coil inside to prevent collapsing, might be rotted out.
    Clogged heater core shouldn't be a problem. Newer cars have valves that stop the flow altogether.
    Good luck.
     
  14. 64specConvert

    64specConvert Member

    The level remains steady after driving it.
    The cap is a proper fit.

    How do I see if there is good flow? Just by looking at the fluid in the radiator?
     
  15. 64specConvert

    64specConvert Member

    Thanks everyone for the suggestions.

    I am going to tinker with the car for a while.
    Will check for further insights later.

    -Michael
     
  16. GSMAG

    GSMAG Well-Known Member

    A clogged radiator will do this. The heater core sounds like it's clogged, so the radiator could be as well. I had a '72 that overheated on the higway. The radiator was 50% clogged with blue silicon...I couldn't see it at all from the cap, the clogging is all on the other side of the radiator.
     
  17. Smartin

    Smartin Guest

    flush and fill system...put a new thermostat in. Change the Radiator cap. If your reservoir isn't hooked up, then you need to get it hooked up. You said the fitting on the radiator is broke off...get a new one! You'll save more money buying a radiator than if you warped anything getting it too hot.
     
  18. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    This is typical insufficient radiator. Its either too small for the motor(unlikely) or it is clogged (very likely). In any case it can't pass enough heat when your on the highway, but will handle around town driving. I say change the radiator especially if you don't know how long it has been there.
     
  19. Smartin

    Smartin Guest

    heh...I didn't read the part about you already changing the thermostat:Dou:
     
  20. brblx

    brblx clueless

    i know the heater core in my skylark is bad, but there is no windo fogging, antifreeze smell, or vapor from the vents unless the heater is turned on...wouldn't this mean the heater core is out of the circuit?

    in my 82 mustang i had to bypass the heater core to get rid of the antifreeze smell and keep the windshield from fogging, even with the heat off...
     

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