Problems...unsure of where to go next

Discussion in 'Street/strip 400/430/455' started by Builtthistough, Mar 15, 2017.

  1. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    Me too.
     
  2. Builtthistough

    Builtthistough Active Member

    Yup that's the one. I guess it's not the "super". So I'll grab a lower resistance coil and see what happens. I don't have the original it was shorted to ground and I threw it away.
     
  3. 69GS400s

    69GS400s ...my own amusement ride!

    I know you said you changed the rubber fuel lines .. but did you change them all ? Most of the time I've seen them they get brittle and crack a bit causing a leak but sometimes they get squishy and can suck together ..

    .. As Jason said, the only real way to monitor fuel flow is with a temporary gauge setup and about the only way to plumb it is either to hack up a good fuel line inserting the sender or to just fab one up saving your original for later use. Best to find someone with a good bender and flaring tool who knows how to use them both .. or drive over to Jason's house with some beer and the latest issue of Ammo magazine
     
  4. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    OK, very simple. Run a direct wire from the battery positive terminal to the coil +. That will bypass the resistance wire for testing purposes.
     
  5. CJay

    CJay Supercar owner Staff Member

    And for the record, I drink Heineken :laugh:
     
  6. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    The Wizard endorses "Cook Custom Fuel Line Services".
     
  7. 69GS400s

    69GS400s ...my own amusement ride!

    You know J. .. I bet that if you bent up a few sets of lines - spec'd to fit a good sender and placing it in a good spot - you could prolly sell them easily here.

    .. I'll accept 7% beer royalty accordingly
     
  8. Bluzilla

    Bluzilla a.k.a. "THE DOCTOR"

  9. Builtthistough

    Builtthistough Active Member

  10. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    Still sounds like fuel to me. If you can not find a problem in the fuel line back to front, you'll need to drop the tank and check the pick up. The only other diagnostic tool you can use is a fuel pressure tap like this,

    https://www.summitracing.com/parts/sum-csum8001/overview/

    Just use 3/8" fuel line from pump to carb, and tee in a gauge and line. Tape it to the windshield and go for a drive. It is not unusual for an engine to free rev in Neutral/Park , but fall on it's face under load.
     
  11. Rob Ross

    Rob Ross Well-Known Member

    With the engine off, does your air valve stay open if you manually open it all the way or does it close on it's own? I've seen this happen and the car would act as you described.
     
  12. 300sbb_overkill

    300sbb_overkill WWG1WGA. MAGA

    Had the same symptoms after I got an old car running after sitting for a long time, the rust in the tank flaked free, piled up on the bottom of the tank and surrounded the pickup! Simply from driving on the crappy rough Michigan roads shook the rust off the inside of the tank which then caused all my problems! :Dou:

    Would fill the float bowl while idling, but couldn't keep up with demand while just cruising! I still had the 2bbl on at the time this happened so it didn't have that big of a float bowl to fill either! :rolleyes:


    Never even suspected the tank because of how nice it looked on the outside for being SO old, but the outside surely didn't represent what the inside ended up as. The fix was a new tank, I didn't want to try and get all that rust flake out to try one of the coat the inside of the tank fix kits even though they're less than a new tank they're a lot more hassle. Something to look for anyway. GL




    Derek
     
  13. Builtthistough

    Builtthistough Active Member

    Well, It seems as though I was in the same boat. I have a new sending unit to install and planned to "clean" out the tank once dropped. I've been holding off to do it at my buddies shop where I have a few extra hands and a lift.

    I blew out the lines a few times before but just did it again in a pulsating pattern for several minutes and I could hear a change in the venting sound of the tank by the end of it. I also hit the floor pan in the trunk repeatedly with a rubber mallet. And wouldn't you know it, issue gone!! YAY!!

    I went ahead and put another new filter in the carb and added an inline unit to help keep the carb happy. Now to drop the dam tank.

    Thank you everyone who helped with their input. I'm the the brightest tool in the shed but I like to get my hands dirty and learn. Atleast I know everything else is top notch. :)
     
  14. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    Well, at least we figured it out before the board took a nap.:grin:
     
  15. Tummler

    Tummler Member

    Don't overlook this suggestion. I had the same exact symptoms as OP describes with my 70 Chevelle SS. After doing a hard pull, it would begin to stumble, especially if the tank was less than half-full.

    I eventually diagnosed the problem when I ran it hard immediately before pulling into a gas station to fill her up. I could barely get the gas cap off there was so much negative pressure in the tank.
     

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