I was wondering who out there has an anti roll bar (tortion bar) on their racecar. Not a rear sway bar, but weld in anti roll bar. How do you like it? What improvements did you see, comparing before and after install??? If you install one of these, what other rear suspension pieces do you run? Shocks, lower control arms, and uppers??? On my '65 the rear suspension is not to elobrate, I have a heavier spring and air bag in the rt. rear, stock spring on the lt., I also have southside lift bars, and junkyard loose rear shocks,and my uppers have plates welded over and repositioned the mount hole to get the right pinion angle, and solid bushings. On motor I have had 60ft. times from a 1.48 -1.60 depending on the track, and in the past on nitrous, I have gone in the low 1.30's for 60ft. I'm thinking about making a change, car leaves hard, but not very straight, when you come off the trans brake and on the "unit", just trying to make it easier to get down the track.....There are a few different brands out there, ranging in price from about $175 to $500+, which one do you use?? Do ya have any installed pics.?? Thanks
Wish i could help, i had my made custom by Finishline Motorsports in Michigan, i dont know if they offer them as a ready to assemble/install piece. Then i had the car on 4corner scales, and set the stuff up. I have to say my car hangs the tires just before 2nd gear shift, and i NEVER have to look at the track-----car pulls 1.35 to 1.38 sixtys, and 100 mph and some change in the 1/8th...with southside lowers, and home made adjustable uppers, on 9" slicks. You will love the anti-sway bar once it is all set up right. Do you want pictures any way? Dave
i had a comp. engineering one in my racecar and i had to preload the right side a couple times a year to keep the car from twisting. this year i got a HRParts & stuff bar and put it in and so far it seems to be holding up good and i havent had to preload the right side anymore since the initial preload so i would suggest spend the extra $$ and get the HRParts & stuff bar. the HR bar is a bolt on part so there is no welding needed it can be installed in a couple hours.
Thanks for the info. I'd like to see some pics. Doug, a bolt in one?? And what kind of gains did you see??? Thanks, Gary G.
I have the HR bar myself. It settled my car down real fast and made it more consistant off the line. As it was I had the left rear off the ground multiple times till we figured out what the car was doing off the hit. Twist is a bad thing!!
The latest issue of Popular Hotrodding has a detailed install of one of these torsion bar rear "drag" sway bars. It's in a 87 Mustang but the concept applies given the fox-body's 4-link style rear end. It's well detailed and I believe it's even got a price rundown. -Phil
buy the hr bar from paul ferry and be done with all your issues. no need for anything else. the best bang for the buck and paul is great to deal with. i know about 30 people with this bar and all cars were much more pleasant to drive and helped improve on the car twisting and also enabled putting more power to the ground safely.
This is all great info. but what other rear suspension stuff are you using with these bars? Single or double adj. rear shocks?? Would I just get rid of the lt. rear air bag, and use everything else I have?? Not to keen with the "bolt on" style, but I guess you could change out the tortion bar easier that way.... Like I said, lets see some pictures. My car does run very good, 60 fts. are pretty good too, but if this would make them better, and help the car "leave" nice and straight, I may have to make the change. My car doesn't "twist" to badly, but for some reason the car seems to not leave as straight as it did in the past..... Gary G.
This is what happens when it lifts 3 wheels off the ground in the launch...dont mind that redlight I did ou: The HR bar took away ALL of that bs and now it runs true and straight out of the gates. I even let the wife run the car after it was installed because it was so tame! <object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/4g75YmRZbYw&hl=en&fs=1&"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/4g75YmRZbYw&hl=en&fs=1&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>
I bought and installed this one in my 66 Lark project. I have not tested it yet ( I hope to this spring) Same as HR, you will have to weld in some brackets but it is very well made. :TU: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1964...ies?hash=item27ac012982&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245
I just got the HR catalog yesterday. I'd still like to see some pics. Where do the "links" connect on the HR bar? That's a pretty pricey kit..... Gary G.
Gary heres a few pics. i didnt pick up any et but it made the 60' more consistant and i didnt have to preload the right side again during the season. i still have an airbag in the right side but there is only a few pounds of air in just to keep it from getting pinched, i tried running with no air in the bag and it didnt make a difference. hope the pics answer some of your questions. it is a bolt in item and hrparts provides you with everything except the wrenches. my dad and i did mine in about 2 hrs. if i knew then what i know now i wouldnt have wasted my $$ on the comp. engineering bar.
Hey painekiller, thanks for the pics! Now I have a good idea of how the Spohn Performance Pro-Touring bar goes in. The Pro Touring and Drag bars go in exactly like this but they eliminated the bolt-in mounting for the upper rod-end on the linkage. The mounts still have bolt holes but they recommend welding them to that saddle as opposed to sandwiching it like it's shown in that photo. I actually think I'm going to find some bar stock and make myself the pieces necessary to install the bar like you have it in those pictures. I can always go back and weld it in if I have to. -Phil
Thanks Doug, I really appreciate the pics. they helped alot. Now time to do some thinking and money scrounging! Gary
im not sure what brand they are, they were on the car when i got it. i imagine all the upper brackets are pretty much the same.
