Rebuilt engine still using oil

Discussion in 'Small Block Tech' started by 69WILD, Sep 25, 2022.

  1. Mart

    Mart Gold level member

    One US quart of oil is 18,927 drops.
    That's little less than 4 drops per foot.
    Still a big loss.
     
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  2. Fox's Den

    Fox's Den 355Xrs

    This compression test is not very good for an engine that has 1500 miles on it already. That #2 cylinder should have had the worst reading on the leakdown test.
    Why is 1, 3, 5, 7 have lower numbers than the 2,4,6,8 side which does look better except for # 2

    I would say that head is not sealing as good on the 1,3,5,7 side. #2 is really low, at that point since it is lower than the rest the compression tester needed to be taken out and clean the seal at the head and make another test in case the tester did not seal good the first time.
    Both sides of the engine should have the same numbers. #3 is 10 points from #4 on the other side, that is a lot.
     
  3. Mark Demko

    Mark Demko Well-Known Member

    All engines use SOME oil, yours is excessive, time to tear it down.
     
  4. woody1640

    woody1640 Well-Known Member

    Lmao what a joke!

    4 pages of discussion on a motor that someone screwed up and no end in sight.


    Keith
     
  5. Smartin

    Smartin antiqueautomotiveservice.com Staff Member

    OP is working with the machine shop to figure out an outcome. One step at a time. Everyone putting in their 2 cents is muddying the water.
     
  6. 69WILD

    69WILD Ron

    I appreciate the insight. I'll update after I examine or repl the seals
     
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  7. 69WILD

    69WILD Ron

    I removed cylinder #1 springs. Intake seal has a small cut on top. Exhaust seal is all chewed up on the bottom. And part of the seal is laying next to the spring. :rolleyes: I'm thinking I should definitely throw them away along with the spring dampeners.

    I attached a picture of seals that were included with my Felpro gasket kit. They seem to press on fairly easily. I thought they would be tighter and a need bit of effort to press them on.

    Valves slide in the guides very easily but not sloppy. I haven't looked at any other cylinders yet.

    Im thinking it might contribute to oil consumption. Any thoughts?
     

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  8. Mart

    Mart Gold level member

    Looks like k liners were installed. Can you wiggle the stem any? Maybe put an indicator on stem side and see how the play is, or if any excess.
    They should be tight, like .0015 tight.
     
  9. 69WILD

    69WILD Ron

    Yes k-line. I don't have a dial indicator but not a noticeable wiggle. But enough to see oil squish a bit around edge of guide when I do wiggle it. I would post a video but don't think I can here.
     
  10. TrunkMonkey

    TrunkMonkey Totally bananas

    If you want, email the video to me and I can upload/host and provide a link.
     
  11. Mark Demko

    Mark Demko Well-Known Member

    Your last picture is the seal Fel Pro includes in the gasket set. Those are the correct ones, Buick only used seals on the intake valve. Those other seals aren’t right.
     
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  12. Fox's Den

    Fox's Den 355Xrs

    you should see the crazy thit on mine I sent Mart a couple of pics. I would post pic but my phone is having trouble downloading to the old Mac I have 12 yrs old now need new one. But I got stupid monster springs and the seals are different and on both intake and exhaust all done by the race shop.
     
  13. 69WILD

    69WILD Ron

    The felpro seals seem to press on pretty easily. Almost seem like they could lift off when the valve is moving up and down.
     
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  14. 1973gs

    1973gs Well-Known Member

    Did somebody cut the valve guides? Maybe that's why they tried those incorrect seals.
     
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  15. Mark Demko

    Mark Demko Well-Known Member

    They should be a snug fit, not hammer and socket beat ‘em down type of fit, but not easy to pop off either
     
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  16. 69WILD

    69WILD Ron

    Thats what I was thinking. Seems like only a slight snug fit. .....Valve guides look unmodified other than the k-liners
     

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  17. Mark Demko

    Mark Demko Well-Known Member

    Yep those guides look stock size
     
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  18. Stevem

    Stevem Well-Known Member

    Those are not positive retention type seals .

    While you have the heads off order from TA performance there ta_1433BV seals.
    These will need the valve guide tops to be cut for these .530" ID seals.
    It's the best investment you will make for good long term oil control.

    This should have been done in the first place if you you spent money on new valves in my opinion.
     
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  19. 69WILD

    69WILD Ron

    Heads are still on. I was thinking of trying it with new seals before I start tearing it all down again. Maybe I'm an optimist.
     
  20. 69WILD

    69WILD Ron

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