Rice rockets and gas guzzlers.

RR, I may only be 29 but you are dead on about these kids not knowing what real power is about. I look at the BBB as being a Cleidsdale(spelling?) horse, while the pumped up imports are like the Arabians. Different animals, but a lot fun.

 

Us vs Them

This debate has been going on FOREVER - there was TONS of trash talk when the big 3 brought out musclecars in the '60s and the old time HOT RODDERS with their thirty year old iron made fun of the wheels, tires, spoilers, graphics, and chrome tips....

Hmmm - sound familiar??? "Damn kids don't know anything, more money than sense, and would you LOOK at THAT THING!!!" See, the "new kids" from 1970 are now the "old men" and we're yukking it up at the stupid youngsters who think they're hot s**t when they can get 100 hp out of their CRX with headers - "just wait 'till I get my NAWWZZ!"

I think that the sixties-seventies musclecars were the HIGH WATER MARK for performance cars, but that's just 'cause they were the COOLEST when I was a teenager. They are crude compared to modern cars, just like an A-V8 rod is compared to a '70 GSX.

I just hope that the future of personal transportation is COOLER than the past - onward and upward!!

 

The only imports I really look out for are the quiet ones. I'm known to hit the local street racing scene on occasion, I usually bring out the Vette. Most of them won't even try, had a little bit of fun with the ones that would. The only races I could get for $ were all American iron. There's fast muscle cars, and fast imports too. I have seen a few musclecars with loud pipes and a 2-bbl 350 that couldn't get out of their own way. But at least it's built here. I personally will not have any part of a car that isn't built in this country. Some will argue that a few imports are built on U.S. soil, but where do you think the profits go? I also won't buy a car that isn't assembled in the U.S., regardless of brand name. Camaros built in Canada, Crown Vics in Mexico, I really wish that we would start taking some pride in our country and demand cars that are built here. I don't like sending profits over to a country that we went to war with about 60 years ago. Too many Americans died fighting for our rights, and here we are now sending money back to the countries that good Americans died fighting against.

 

Artie,

This is not intended as a flame, but please do realize that Canadians went to war with Americans 60 years ago as well, all for the same freedom. My uncle was a POW for over 9 months just like many other Americans were POWs. I also live less than 15 min. from the LS1 assembly plant in St. Catharines, and we have a family friend that works there. I can vouch that the Canadian plant builds a quality product. A fast car is a fast car no matter where it's built. That's not to say I like it when my Hot Rod is beat by a four banger, but it is humbling, and thus, such occasions have persuaded me to buy a new 3.55 Sure Grip and I'm also ordering a new cam... It's Hot Rodding, and it's what the hobby is all about. Though some ricers can't seem to figure that out!



And, yes, although some profits are going overseas, they don't call them The Big Three for nothing.

Happy New Year all!

 

Ummm.... we're at a 1.5 to 1 exchange rate (Meaning I work twice as hard for every US part I buy) and Canada trades with the US at a zero duty on wheat, lumber, cars, oil, and metals. It ain't a raw deal, Canadian labour is dirt cheap because of the exchange rate, but all US products are sold here at a 2x premium and we pay duty on everything WE buy. We could all cry foul, but in reality the arrangement is mutually beneficial.

As far as fighting spirit and determination over the last 100 years we've contributed an equal or greater %age of our forces. My family lost 28 of the 34 men sent to WWII. I happen to have spent 2 years in northern Canada working for DnD/DoD installing repeater towers for US radar stations during the Cold War. The 2 guys from my team killed when thier plane went into the Mackenzie Delta certainly paid the price to do thier part.

We're all for keeping our Classic Cars and V-8's, we'd love to see a RWD car back in the GM stable, and the racing crowd in Calgary has more than a few Buicks.

This is North America, you're not in this alone. Have some good `ol Canadian :beer with us while I race my US car and we'll call `er even :TU:

 

Plus in Canada you can get Molson XXX!!:beer

 

Accually the Crown Vic is built in the St thomas, onterio Canada assembly plant.
And the F-body is DEAD
Tim

 

Todays Youth dosn't know power

the youth of today is pretty dumb... i should know, at 20 i have lots of contact with them. i have watched people throw thousands of dollars into ricers, even get them pretty fast, but most of them just throw on the damn fart pipe and some stickers and the biggest most horrendous spoiler they can find and think they are the bees knees. the ones who know what there doing (at least the ones i know) usually stick to a sleeper look, not show off they're power untill they need to, no i can respect that. as for the rest of them, well i enjoy blasting through the suburbs and setting off the alarms in all the lil ricers they're daddies bought for them.
Not your average 20yo
Josh

 

yeah...I'm 21 and I see all that crap driving around with the coffee cans coming out of their asses. Sometimes I just want to kick one of those cans in asnd see it cruch under my foot. That'll be interesting when the owner sees a toe-shaped crescent moon in his $3000 coffee can exhaust pipe. Hell, that might increase HP...or fart noise.

 

When a boom-boom stereo or farter gets too close I take great joy in revving up the 455 to drown out the noise.

Too bad they don't make a header valve you can operate from inside!

 

JC Whitney makes a set of dumps that you can operate by cable from the inside. I would kill for a set of those just for that reason. It would shake the decals off those cars!!

 

:laugh: I saw in an ad for a local auto parts store in yeserday's paper that the ricer type can now buy a tail pipe that has LED lights surrounding it.ou:

 

real cute...when are the mariachi horns coming to the market?

 

It gets worse. They even have a fake intercooler and a device that makes a blow off valve sound. This is so people think you have a turbo. How pathetic.:blast:

 

I've seen these in Crutchfield. Stooooopid. Its amazing what people will put on there cars.

 

Re: Todays Youth dosn't know power

Josh, a 20 year old that says "the bees knees"? You are right, you are not averageuzzled:

 

I always have fun with ricers around here. They're usually stockers with a body kit and a thumper of a stereo. ugh. Even the Delta can smoke them and when I hit 2nd and 3rd gear, I'm gone, but they dust me in 4th. 60 and 1200rpm's are bad for that kinda stuff...

 

cutouts

clint:
back in the middle 60s, a friend of mine had a 58 pontiac, 2 dr ht with a juiced up 283v8 with a 4v & an auto trans. this car had dual exhausts & cutouts on the exhaust pipes that u could open & close from the inside of the car . when he dragged someone , he would open up the cutouts & race or if he drove thru one of the local small towns, open would go the cutouts . it was noisy.
i was present one night when he beat a 64 ford galaxy 500 390v4 4spd in the quarter mile . a 283 beats a 390 !
gerry
72 gs 350 ht #s

 

i have one even better than that . the summer of `1969 in winnepeg canada they ran a 283 4 door impala against a 1968 HEMI charger in a heads up stock class and the 283 won easily.

 

I'd say that times really haven't changed...I grew up in the late '70's , early 80's....Back then we had the run-of -the-mill 307 Camaro's with the pro- stock hood scoop running 15's, as well as the sleeper's running 12's. Spoilers, 15 x 10 Cragers, M-50-15's, air-shocked rear ends jacked sky-hi, side pipes, stickers on the windows, glass packs, loud stereos, etc, etc. Same stuff, different times.....We had the Lookers as well as the Runners.....
Sure, our musclecars ruled the street for decades... The tides changed in the late '80's with the intro of the intercooled GN's....Yes, I came to that realization the first time my '66 GS got beat by a GN.... rather humbling, I should add....
Technology has caught up with the times, and has even pulled ahead of the previous restrictions concerning emissions, fuel economy, and political 'correctness' . Performance is back. Performance is cool again. Same stuff, different times, but in a different form. Deal with it!
I've also made a transition...a turbo SAAB. Fast (sort of) good on gas, cheap insurance, cheap parts, and replaceable (even disposable?). It'll never take the place of my GS's, but it fits the times. Any gearhead would appreciate a big-block GS, as well as a tweaked turbo-anything, as long as it runs!! Odd as it seems, there are a number of guys on SAABnet who also own GS's!! Why?...Performance!!
We're all car guys...The more things change, the more they stay the same!!...