http://www.supercooltools.com/ heres another one http://throttleshaftrepair.com/products/product1.htm $200 bucks is too pricey. it must be available for some other purpose for 10 bucks or so. anyone? anyone know anything about this tool and where I can get a tool like this for low cost? Says no drill press needed.
Planning on re-bushing your thorttle shafts Gary? Most carburetor shops can do this for you for about 65.00. The carb shop I use, includes that service in their rebuild procedure.
I dont know any carb shops around here and besides I like the satisfaction and cost savings of doing it myself. Do you think this would work? http://www.dansdata.com/images/tools/reamer500.jpg Where would it end. If i nickel and dime everything out. My ignition springs, my carb rebuild, my intake manifold swap, my gage installation, radiator replacement. If I pay a pro to do everything I might as well go buy a finished car and make payments. I like doing things myself as much as possible, not just for the finished car but for the satisfaction of doing it and learning how to do stuff and then being able to pass that knowledge along to th next guy. Thats why I love this board so much, guys sharing their experience and successes and failures, learning from each other. thats what cars has always been about for me since I was a kid. How hard can it be to ream out half a hole so a bushing fits in it? Do i really need a pro to do this for me. If i start down that path, it never ends.
That tool is not going to work. Might as well use a rat tail file than that thing. My best advice is this- If you want to do it yourself, but the right tool. Dont try and scrimp on cheap tools. But the best- Snap On, Mac, Matco. Spend the 2 bills and do it right. A good tool will last a lifetime and then some. Ive spend thousands on tools that Ive only used once. But they are there if I need them. I probably have $50k invested in my tools and toolbox. Hell, my tool box cost $11.5k. But I can tackle almost any job
na, it seems everybody and their brother is offering carb rebuilding services so it cant be that hard just need the right tools. I have them all but one, the elusive throttle bore reamer. So I just need help finding one. Im not paying 200 bucks for it either. Just like the bushings that are 40 dollars when you buy them from the carb rebuilder site. Then go look in Mcmaster Car and find them for 60 cents. and no they arent magic bushings that you can only get from the carb guru. lol So ill find the right tool and install my own bushings. The thing with yellow pages is it doesnt verify if the shop is honest or not. No I dont like going to shops they like to rip people off, pad the bill, make up fake shop charges and double speak to me like I dont know what they are doing. One of my downfall is I like to belive people and Im too trusting. The older I get the more I see how crooked people are. I know there are good shops though, we had a guy back home in wisconsin. Straight as an arrow. They are even harder to come by down here in florida where the work ethic is weak. Hes actually the one that told me not to nickel and dime everything and learn how to do stuff for myself. I just went to this Tire shop the other day and they ripped me off there so na, kinda got a bad taste in my mouth from shops. I got the feeling that you guys were all DIY guys so thats why I come here I thought we were all the same, sharing info so we can save our money to buy parts from each other or whererever the deals are. I think relationships are what cars are all about thats what I like about this place. Thats what makes it fun. I go to a shop only if i absolutely have to. To me its like a form of losing if I have to go to a shop, besides i have more time than money right now. cheers
I go by word of mouth. I ask my fellow club members and people I meet at cruise meets. You can find good shops like that.
i'm suprised that both of those first links are in Alberta,Canada.the "carburator doctor" is 20 minutes from me & the other one in Red Deer is 2 hours.if you can buy them here you should be able to find them closer. i've never used the tool,but i think it has a guide so the reamer will be "centered" while cutting.my friend that does carbs (mainly Holleys) always installs bushings,but also cuts a groove for 0-rings.no leaks. Ken
www.geslerheadporting.com Has a 10 pack of the bushings for about $20. The complete install kit is $60 and comes with 3 sets of bushings....so you can start a Q-jet bushing business in your own neighborhood!:Brow: I don't believe you are supposed to drill the larger hole all the way thru, and a reamer will not do that, you need to use a drill bit. Gregs kit has the proper stepped bit to keep it aligned while drilling the larger dia hole.
i had my q jet bushed the machine shop used a thin bronze valve guide cut to length the cost for everything was $40. if i was doing more than one i would buy the tools but for one carb?the machinists need to make a living too.
oh dont get me wrong, its totally worth the 40.00, its just that all that little stuff adds up and I got to eat ya know.
"Im not paying 200 bucks for it either. Just like the bushings that are 40 dollars when you buy them from the carb rebuilder site. Then go look in Mcmaster Car and find them for 60 cents. and no they arent magic bushings that you can only get from the carb guru. lol So ill find the right tool and install my own bushings." We sell the install kit, same as Greg for $60. Bushings are $4 per pair, and come with 8 new 3-48 hardened screws for the throttle plates. I've been producing/selling bushing install kits for over 10 years now, and we sell our kits and custom machined self guiding bits to other vendors. In all the years I've been at this, we've only had a hand full of enthusiasts run into troubles doing it themselves. Sort of funny, but we get a call or two a month that the custom machined self-guiding bit we supplied is too small. So we have to explain that it has a self guiding "lead" and cuts on the wider part, etc, etc. We've even seen a few folks use a standard drill bit and drill press with the throttle body clamped up....YIKES! Kind of interesting that we saw this procedure shown on one of those Hot-Rod TV shows recently. Yep, they showed drilling it with a plain old drill-bit and tapping bushings in place afterward......NOT a good idea if you like you carburetor! In any case, there are several methods out there for this problem. Some shops actually cut thin peices of teflon from sheets and use it to tighten up the side play. Some also use thin wall brass bushings, solid steel bushings, etc. I use and recomend the oil impregnated bronze bushings, it is a permanent repair, and easy enough to do yourself. The biggest problem we see, is folks twisting off the throttle plate screws, then nearly destroying the throttle shaft in attempts to remove them. Even this problem is rare, IF you read the directions. It still amazes me that folks that run into this problems usually break off most or all of the screws before they stop and take a second look at things! I've always liked doing my own work when it comes to this hobby, and respect others that do so as well. Nothing more satisfying than doing something yourself, saving money, and getting a good end result. Problem is, you just have realize your limitations. This is where Vendors and Specialty shops come in. I certainly wouldn't go after my cylinder heads with a Craftsman 18V drill and a stone chucked up in the end of it, and expect them to flow as good as the heads I purchased from Greg Gessler, nor would I expect my camshaft to turn freely in the block after I drove the cam bearings in with an old socket/extension instead of paying the machine shop to do it.ou: ......Cliff
New, to this forum, just joined to ask some questions about this. I have the similar problem with my 65 Mustang with an autolite 4100. Cliff, would this kit work for my car? I am guessing but the autolite probably has the 3/8" throttle shaft diameter. My carb is worth some money to repair, but at $200 for a kit, I might as well buy a new carb. I could probably convert my car to fuel injection for that kind of money. Also, is there an image of the drill bit available? I have access to a drill press, but I was wondering what keeps the drill bit perpendicular to the carb base.
We have self-guiding bits for 3/8" shafts in addition to the 5/16" ones listed on our website. We use them for 2GC's, secondary side of the Q-jets, AFB's, Holley's, etc. A drill-press is not required, and not even recomended. The bits have a long lead, and are self-guiding. You will need a 1/2" drill, a small shop vise, and couple blocks of wood or some soft-jaws. The entire procedure takes less time than it took me to type this.....Cliff http://www.cliffshighperformance.com/
Cool, maybe I'll get one of the 3/8" bits for my secondary sides, just in case. I will say that my Rochester 7027241 4MV carb with the primary bushing fix is humming along nicely since I bolted 'er onto the 430. I just changed my advance springs to the blue Crane replacements (800-3200RPM), and it runs even smoother now. I've got another carb to do, then I'll have 3 functional units to play with.
I bought one of Cliff's kits a number of years ago. I recommend it wholeheartedly. I have re-bushed MANY Q-Jets using the self guiding bit provided, and just realized I need more bushings and throttle shaft screws. Cliff.....I'll be giving you a call ! Jim J
