Starter support bracket

Discussion in 'The Bench' started by IlliniGSX, Apr 28, 2019.

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  1. 72 goat herder

    72 goat herder Well-Known Member

    Thanks Bruno. I will put a check for $15.00 in the mail tomorrow and mail it to Hicksville.
     
  2. gsfred

    gsfred Founders Club Member

    Yes, to threaded hole.
     
  3. yachtsmanbill

    yachtsmanbill Well-Known Member

    A. If the starter is out, chase BOTH holes with a BOTTOM tap and blow clean with air.

    B. Clean and Oil BOTH cap screws and install finger tight.

    C. Tighten both with a 1/2" wrench.

    D. Reconnect the battery and drive to church and light a candle for Saint Jude. Saint Christopher aint gonna work if you made it there... ws
     
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  4. mrolds69

    mrolds69 "The Cure"

    There's only a threaded hole in the starter case if it's a Buick starter. It's mostly only Buicks and Olds that have the threaded holes. It's possible your starter may have no hole. Inside the starter I think there is a plastic cup to prevent the bolt from hitting things. There were actually like special length bolts, too. Just a caveat so you don't try to put a 1 1/2" length bolt into the case.
     
  5. IlliniGSX

    IlliniGSX GSX #401

    I am in line to get a bracket if anyone has one they are willing to sell. I have broken 4 starters since October of last year. I am not sure how I will get it on with the engine in the car with headers but I have to do some thing as I am tired of changing starters. Let me know what you have.

    Thanks Jim

    Guys, thanks for the response and pictures!!!!!!
     
  6. BrunoD

    BrunoD Looking for Fast Eddie

    There's a threaded hole on the top of the starter.Funny,we never see it ,unless its needed.And Jim,I don't think your problem is this missing bolt,its must likely timing that's not correct,maybe a bad flexplate, other things also.Bruno.
     
  7. copperheadgs1

    copperheadgs1 copperheadgs1

    Doink
     
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  8. Cutlass

    Cutlass Platinum Level Contributor

    So it is fair to assume that most of you guys here do not have the bracket installed and not have any issues? Main reason to install is to have everything as close to stock as possible?
     
  9. copperheadgs1

    copperheadgs1 copperheadgs1

    Millions of miles have been driven without one.
     
  10. PaulGS

    PaulGS Well-Known Member

    No argument Dave.

    I just wonder why the Buick engineers would have added that part if it was not needed.

    Probably a cost justification to avoid warranty issues. Its all about dollars and cents.
     
  11. Brett Slater

    Brett Slater Super Moderator Staff Member

    So the purist would have to go crazy looking for one. :(
     
  12. PaulGS

    PaulGS Well-Known Member

    I am sure some diabolical Buick design engineer said to himself:

    "Let me design in a useless starter bracket that is a bitch to R&R for people who will mess with these cars 50 years from now"

    LOL
     
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  13. jay3000

    jay3000 RIP 1-16-21

    If you were in the business of making money, it went" ca-ching" . Removing it was hard enough.
     
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  14. Duane

    Duane Member

    "So the purist would have to go crazy looking for one."

    Not this one. They are kept in a box with all the extra parts for the cars.
    Duane
     
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  15. mrolds69

    mrolds69 "The Cure"

    Both my Buicks were missing the brackets, and both have them now. Same with my Olds. This is one of those things I think is a good idea to keep, or put, on your car. Now...if you are talking about the engine pull loop on a 70 455, you can throw it away, you don't really need it. I know it sucks to put them on, but if it's that hard for you to do it, either you don't have good tools or maybe you really aren't cut out for mechanical work. If you look at how that bracket is made and figure the cost of GM putting it on every car, then you have to figure there's a reason why they did that.
     
  16. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    You know what, they wouldn't. I think the reason you never see them is they are a pain to install, so they are left off the 1st time you R&R a starter. The stock starter is quite heavy, and it is only supported by the 2 mounting bolts. The brace probably takes some strain off those mounting bolts. I currently use a mini starter and they are a lot lighter.
     
  17. Utah455

    Utah455 Platinum Level Contributor

    I just checked my current starter and it has the threaded hole for a bracket, but no bracket. The a re-manufactured (P/N 2170N) starter I just bought from Year One doesn't have the hole on top of the starter. Looks like I need to drill/thread a hole in the starter if I wanted to mount a bracket. Anyone modify a starter housing before? I wonder if the old shell would remove and install on the refurbed unit.
     
  18. BrunoD

    BrunoD Looking for Fast Eddie

    I will mail it to the herder as soon as I get the money,I do have another one handy,so that's up for grabs.Bruno.
     
  19. Brett Slater

    Brett Slater Super Moderator Staff Member

    Bruno,

    I'll take it if it's not spoken for.

    Thanks!
     
  20. mrolds69

    mrolds69 "The Cure"

    That is not an easy job drilling and tapping the case. You have to take the starter apart first. The hole has to be in the exact right spot. I've been told there's like a small plastic cup inside behind the thread to protect the windings or armature. Stellar would know, it's his business. But, he probably hasn't, or isn't, going to look at this thread.
     

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