Which rear gear set for a 4 speed with overdrive?

Discussion in 'U-shift em' started by Rick Henderson, Jun 28, 2010.

  1. Rick Henderson

    Rick Henderson Well-Known Member

    Here goes............Muncie M22 with Autogear overdrive (2.199/1.506/1.000/0.859), tires are 275/60/15. I imagine the motor is around 425-450hp range. Its for my 70 convertible.

    Ring and pinion-----tire size---- speed----- trans ratio-------- rpm

    2.73 ---------- 27.99----------60----------0.859----------1671
    3.08 ---------- 27.99----------60----------0.859---------- 1886
    3.42 ---------- 27.99----------60----------0.859----------2094

    Any ideas?
     
  2. DaWildcat

    DaWildcat Platinum Level Contributor

    I'd run at least 3.42:1. I think Larry's running 3.73:1 with his overdrive setup.

    Devon
     
  3. Rick Henderson

    Rick Henderson Well-Known Member

    Looks like Larry's combo would be going down the road at 2284 rpm, with my tire size...........
     
  4. DaWildcat

    DaWildcat Platinum Level Contributor

    In general you need enough cruise rpm to stay above the start of the cam's power band for any lengthy driving.

    Devon
     
  5. Floydsbuick

    Floydsbuick Well-Known Member

    Your not over driven very much w an .85. 3.42s -3.55s spin a 1 to 1 pretty good on the highway. If you want some road trip-ability, I'd say your in the 3.55-3.73 range.
     
  6. kick71

    kick71 Mike

    wow I'm jealous. I want to get one of those in next year after I drive my newly converted 4 spd with new motor for awhile.
    Please report back after you are up and running on how you like or dislike the 4spd OD M22

    Mike
     
  7. The Old Guy

    The Old Guy Joe Taubitz

    I run a 3.31 axle with a 200-4R tranny. The overdrive is .68 and it cruises great on the interstate! I also runa 275/60 X15:Do No: :Do No: :Do No:
     
  8. Rick Henderson

    Rick Henderson Well-Known Member

    Makes sense. I don't recall the cam thats in the motor now. Well it put the white 70 into the 11's on a regular basis with 3.42 gears and a t400.
     
  9. Rick Henderson

    Rick Henderson Well-Known Member

    Will do.
     
  10. bostongsx

    bostongsx Platinum Level Contributor

    I run a 3.23 in my vert with that tranny and like it.
     
  11. Rick Henderson

    Rick Henderson Well-Known Member

    Thats what I was thinking of putting in it. Great. Thanks. I pulled the cover on the rear that is under the car now and its a 8.5, 10 bolt with a 2.56 gear.....:Dou:

    Going to have to find a 3 series carrier and some gears now.

    Thanks Guys!
     
  12. crash

    crash Well-Known Member

    You would be better off with a 2.88CC ST-10, and leave the 2.56 rear alone... You will have a better final drive in first gear with the ST-10, and the 1 to 1 4th gear is lower than the O.D. final drive will give you...

    Some thing to think about... Crash
     
  13. Rick Henderson

    Rick Henderson Well-Known Member

    Tranny is already built. The overdrive was a gift also. But thanks for the info.
     
  14. 70 gsconvt

    70 gsconvt Silver Level contributor

    I would go with the 3.42's. I currently have a 3.73 rearend with my 200-4R trans. 2100 rpm's on the highway with a 28" tall tire. Great cruising speed on the highway at 70 mph.
     
  15. kick71

    kick71 Mike

    Rick where are you getting the trans from?

    Herb,
    How long have you had M22 with the OD? Any issues bolting it up or with its function? Where did you get it from?

    Mike
     
  16. jdk971

    jdk971 jim karnes

    you want the combo to cruise at your engines power band. big block probably
    around 2000 rpms. anything lower than 1800, would probably lug the engine
    and not give you your best mpg. i had a 5 speed in a corvette small block with a 3.08 and the rpms were too low for the 5 gear. waste of money. jmho
    jim
     
  17. Rick Henderson

    Rick Henderson Well-Known Member

    Mike,
    I got the parts from Erickson Gear in Seattle, WA. The owner became a good friend to me. We call him Muncie Bill as he is extremely knowledgeable of Muncie's (my interest) along with just about any manual transmission.

    Bill has cancer and doesn't have long to live. He has difficulty lifting trannys by himself now.
     
  18. kick71

    kick71 Mike

    Hey Rick did you get the trans in and running with new gear ratio yet?

    Mike
     

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