67 Riviera 430 Build

Discussion in 'The Bench' started by johnriv67, Oct 8, 2018.

  1. johnriv67

    johnriv67 Well-Known Member

    Cam began to come on hard at about 4000 in low stall.
     
  2. johnriv67

    johnriv67 Well-Known Member

    Ok so that was wild. I jacked up the rear end to prevent too much spilling, but I guess that doesn’t work. How much fluid are you supposed to lose?

    Anyways, about to go buy some more #6 finishing nails to have a supply ready. I’m waiting on my digital scale to arrive tomorrow.
    From what I see, two yellow springs.
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  3. 436'd Skylark

    436'd Skylark Sweet Fancy Moses!!!!!

    You'll lose more fluid overnight as the converter drains back.
     
  4. johnriv67

    johnriv67 Well-Known Member

    Also, on the top of the governor, the number 14 is printed in ink. Looks factory
     
  5. PGBuick

    PGBuick Well-Known Member

    John,
    You're doing great! Keep asking questions! As others have recommended, I would:
    1: Get the governor set up to shift automatically where you want it (5000 - 5200) - it's pretty simple to do with weight adjustments
    2. Get a bigger tire that will allow you to improve the 60'
    3. Get your reaction times so the first digit to the right of the decimal point is a zero :) Try staging a little deeper and leave on the last yellow. Practice a lot. Be EXTREMELY consistent with how you stage.

    Have fun!!

    Pat
     
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  6. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

  7. johnriv67

    johnriv67 Well-Known Member

    Excellent thank you Larry, been looking for this for two days. Also, what do you think of the new best time and how the car is doing?
     
  8. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    Impressive John, you have a definite 13 second time slip there with some traction. Lebanon Valley is about 600’ above sea level, so if you ran the car at sea level, it would go even faster. We use to go to Cecil in October and on a good day, the Density Altitude would be negative in the morning with temps in the 50’s. The cars would fly.
     
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  9. johnriv67

    johnriv67 Well-Known Member

    I might be going junkyard diving for riviera parts/wheels this morning, we shall see.
     
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  10. Briz

    Briz Founders Club Member

    There is Drag racing tree apps for your phone you can use to practice. I had the one from Jegs.
     
  11. johnriv67

    johnriv67 Well-Known Member

    I used to have one too, the app eventually failed to work, but eventually I’ll get it. My reaction time average was better last season than this season.
     
  12. 1969RIVI

    1969RIVI Well-Known Member

    Hey John if you stumble across any 68-69 Riv parts cars on your adventures let me know buddy!
     
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  13. johnriv67

    johnriv67 Well-Known Member

    I found none. Owner said he hadn’t seen any for 30 years..
     
  14. 1969RIVI

    1969RIVI Well-Known Member

    Yeh our cars are becoming more like unicorns everyday! If I see or get a line on any 67 riv stuff I'll let you know. Even if I gotta buy it and ship it to you to make the deal work. Feel free to PM me any parts you're looking for so I got a list to go off of. In two weeks there's a huge 4 day auto flea market that happens every year twice a year and I'll be going to it.
     
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  15. johnriv67

    johnriv67 Well-Known Member

    Well I have 68-69 Dash ash trays if you want or need them.
     
  16. 1969RIVI

    1969RIVI Well-Known Member

    I'm good for those, thank you though!
     
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  17. johnriv67

    johnriv67 Well-Known Member

    Ok here goes. Scale arrived:
    1st inner: 11.34 grams
    2nd inner: 11.39 grams
    1st outer: 43.36 grams
    2nd outer: 43.25 grams

    Brought the nose weight of the inner weights down to 3.55 grams and 3.56 grams respectively. Using GM's stock yellow springs the whole thing is back together and will be tested tomorrow, unless the thing decides to puke tranny fluid from the crapped out gasket that is holding the governor inside the four bolt cover.
     
    Last edited: May 28, 2019
  18. johnriv67

    johnriv67 Well-Known Member

    The new 1-2 shift is at 5350 and 2-3 is at 5050. What is next? Could I turn up mod pressure to raise the level that the governor pressure has to push against, delaying the two shifts by 50 more rpm? Do some work with the springs? It's spring time for a reason, and not just the calendar.

    1-2 4800 to 5350: 550 rpm
    2-3 4300 to 5050: 750 rpm

    AT THE DRAG STRIP: I also figured out that I was shifting wrong from 1-2 range to drive. You don't need to pull the shifter towards you, just bump it over. That pull towards me caused me to overthrow it twice.

    I will no longer need to shift when this governor is all set up, but I really have improved the 1-2 shift as well
     
    Last edited: May 29, 2019
  19. telriv

    telriv Founders Club Member

    John,

    IF your modifying the governor to shift at the correct RPM's in drive why would you even want to touch the shift lever???
    Oh yeah I know it's called playing.
    What I have done in the past is modify the shift lever detent in the steering column so it doesn't move past the "D" position.
    For it to go to neutral is when the lever has to be lifted. ALL you would have to do is "Slap" the lever with your hand.
     
  20. johnriv67

    johnriv67 Well-Known Member

    Tom is was referring to at the strip I didn’t know how to shift, now I do after practicing last night.

    And Tom how do I change the detent so that it would require me to lift the lever into neutral?
     

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