For what it's worth, "the definitive source" for car values

Discussion in 'The Bench' started by SmittyDawg, Jul 21, 2005.

  1. SmittyDawg

    SmittyDawg Need another garage....

    Picked up a new mag today....."Premier Issue" it says, so apparently a new player on the block. It's called "Collector Car Market Review" and touts itself as "The definitive source for collector car market information".

    Here's some of the Buick numbers they list.....the prices shown are for perfect cars in number one condition....

    1970 GS Hardtop........24,400
    1970 GS Convert........27,725
    1970 GSX..................32,125

    1971 GS Hardtop........23,425
    1971 GS Convert........27,450
    1971 GSX..................30,850

    To all of above, add 20% for Stage 1 option, 5% for 4-speed manual and deduct 8% for no a/c.....other misc for manual steering, bench seat, etc.

    Under $35K for a perfect Stage 1, four-speed convertible? I'll take two...
     
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  2. 70gsrick

    70gsrick 1 of 66

    I think they should go suck an egg. :rant: :af:
     
  3. Smartin

    Smartin antiqueautomotiveservice.com Staff Member

    Tell us how you really feel, Rick:laugh::laugh:
     
  4. Dan Healey

    Dan Healey Well-Known Member

    Damn...

    You mean to tell me I'm at my limit of the cars value already, and it isn't close to going back together yet. :Dou: :laugh:
     
  5. Yardley

    Yardley Club Jackass

    Are those numbers for 350 or 455 cars?
     
  6. SmittyDawg

    SmittyDawg Need another garage....

    Sorry, Yards....guess I forgot that part. What's shown is for 455 cars....350's are at about $10K less in #1 condition! :eek2:

    By the way....69 Riv info....w/ 430 engine....again, #1 condition...

    2dr Htp $9,650
    GS $10,325

    deduct 10% for no a/c
     
  7. staircasesurfer

    staircasesurfer Alex Prins

    i dont care how little these buicks are selling for because i will NEVER sell mine, allthough i feel bad for those restoring and trying to come out with a profit, or maybe just even. with the increase of prices of these cars comes the detrachment of the people that truly love them, they will become more of a collectible to say "hey man, guess what i have in my 30+ car collection, a $70,000 1970 gs stage one, all new nos pannels,ya it also has a totaly stock 454" :Dou: " while the real buick collector will be scratching his head wondering where all the cheep parts and cars went :Do No: ,
     
  8. Jim Weise

    Jim Weise EFI/DIS 482

    Cole's post is a bit "tonque in cheek" since he full well knows that I have a couple of 6 figure GS's in the shop here.. Along with a couple more high 5 figure cars.

    Those guides are just that.. guides for average GS's.. you start talking the rare color combo and equiptment stuff, and you can use that book to line you birdcage..

    JW
     
  9. 69GS400s

    69GS400s ...my own amusement ride!

    ....I dont know If i was looking at the same one as Cole is referencing, but it said

    "71 Riviera......blahblahblah.....deduct 10% for non-455 engine"

    OooooKay :Dou: :rolleyes: :blast:

    They should state they are self-proclaimed idiots not "....the Definitive Source"
     
  10. CLEVER ONE

    CLEVER ONE Member

  11. 70gsrick

    70gsrick 1 of 66

    Yeah, what Alan said!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Hey Cole, do they list an e-mail address or phone number for readers that want to....ya know......suggest where they can stick it....er I mean provide helpful suggestions?
     
  12. MikeM

    MikeM Mississippi Buicks

    The whole thing is absurd because the production numbers are so low on some of these cars. There can't be more than half a dozen numbers matching 71 4spd big block convertibles left alive out of the 27 originally made. So who's to say what they're worth? Certainly not just a % adder for the 4 spd tranny like is mentioned here. At least I'd like to believe that since I've got one.
     
  13. Marco

    Marco Well-Known Member

    Cole - they have to be right. Hemmings stated the same thing HERE and HERE. :rolleyes:

    Wow. I can now 'definitively' convince my wife that my car really is NOT a down payment on a new house.

    :pp
     
  14. Carl Rychlik

    Carl Rychlik Let Buick Light Your Fire

    Well I tell you guys,the prices are still too low. With everything else going for a buzzillion dollars,our cars still aren't recognized by the "lugnuts" doing all these price guides.

    I look at it this way-no matter what the price,I'm not selling.
     
  15. gstewart

    gstewart Well-Known Member

    the price of any vehicle is what a purchaser is willing to pay. simple as that.
     
  16. SmittyDawg

    SmittyDawg Need another garage....

    Quite right, JW! A clean, correctly restored Buick will bring WAY more than this book shows.....


    Anyway, to answer Rick's question, they do NOT list an e-mail address (shows how "in-touch" they are with today's technology....makes you wonder about how in touch they are with today's prices!).

    The rag is published by VMR International, out of North Grafton, MA.
    Editor's name is John Iofolla (also listed as the "Publisher).
    They give a phone # 508-839-6707, and fax # 508-839-6266.
    They give a toll free # (800-867-4685), but I think that's for subscriptions.

    That's all I got....
     
  17. Jim Weise

    Jim Weise EFI/DIS 482

    You may think that is all you got...

    But what you don't know is that your the proud owner of an absolutely fabulous 70 GS rear bumper.. that I picked up last night for your ride from my plating jobber..

    Overall, prolly one of the nicest replates I have ever seen.. remember that great core I told you about.. it's all shiny now..

    Come on by Dawg, drag that Kid of yours with you so we can talk motors for his new car, and scope it out.. it's worth the trip..

    I will be here late tonight............

    :eek2: :TU:

    JW
     
  18. SmittyDawg

    SmittyDawg Need another garage....

    COOL! Might just have to swing by tonight!
    By the way, don't know if he asked or not, but.........got an open trailer that we can borrow for the weekend???? :Dou:
     
  19. IDOXLR8

    IDOXLR8 Senior Member

  20. Jim Weise

    Jim Weise EFI/DIS 482

    Sure, all you have to do is stop by the scrapyard over in Anoka, and get rid of the scrap steel on it..

    JW
     

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