How to make unbreakable motor mounts for pennies and little time..

Discussion in 'The Bench' started by jay3000, Jun 7, 2011.

  1. jay3000

    jay3000 RIP 1-16-21

    4 grade 5 3/8 bolts from the junk bin, 4 nylon lock nuts. 1 mean drill bit..

    The frame pads will have to be massaged a little to allow the mounts to sit flush because the bolt heads are slightly in the way. But, if the long bolt will pass through all of the holes you are good to go. This is the mount from the drivers side of the turbo car. Without the bolts it is actually two pieces. Who cares. The good part is that at idle and light throttle the weight of the engine rests on the rubber and is very smooth. When you apply 500lbs of torque the bolts hold it together.. This has held up to a little abuse..:bglasses: To say the least..
     

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  2. TheSilverBuick

    TheSilverBuick In the Middle of No Where

  3. skierkaj

    skierkaj Day 2 Street Screamer

    I might have to do that the next time my engine comes out; seems like a little extra insurance.

    Anybody know what amount of force it takes to stretch a bolt or tear the threads off one? I'd imagine it's a crazy amount of force.
     
  4. John Codman

    John Codman Platinum Level Contributor

    Back in the dark ages when I raced Ford flatheads on an oval track, that's what I would do. The stock mounts would break virtually every race. Bolting through them solved the problem and I never had a mount failure again.
     
  5. buickjunkie

    buickjunkie Well-Known Member

    thanks for the info, I have two I can now salvage :TU:
    Bruce
     
  6. jay3000

    jay3000 RIP 1-16-21

    If mine were to break I would need a new hood and maybe new downpipes at the least..
     
  7. John Codman

    John Codman Platinum Level Contributor

    After the first mount failure we put a safety chain from the engine to the frame on the left side.
     
  8. DauntlessSB92

    DauntlessSB92 Addicted to Buick

    I broke a rubber mount with a stock 72 engine... Never thought to check the motor mount as the cause of all my header gasket issues but then I loaded up the converter with the hood open:shock:

    Next time the motor or the mount comes out I'll definitely be trying that out
     
  9. jay3000

    jay3000 RIP 1-16-21

    I broke a pinion yoke, driveshaft, and pulled the tranny case right off the bellhousing area.. Motor mounts survived.
     
  10. philbquick

    philbquick Founders Club Member

    Some one asked how much force it would take to break the bolts, answer: 9,300 lbs ea for a total of 18,600 lbs. It looks like you used nylock bolts, I'm not sure how well the nylock will hold-up to heat over time. You may consider putting loctite 648 on the nuts which will hold-up to 450 degrees and must be heated to 500 degrees to release.

    I have a GN and I went to Home Depot and bought 3 ft of 1/4 stainless steel cable, two clamps and a 3/8 closed loop eye bolt. Wrap one end around the frame and replace one of the alternator bolts with the eye loop bolt and attach the other end of the cable to that. It's good for over 1,000lbs and the total cost was $7.00.
     
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  11. sean Buick 76

    sean Buick 76 Buick Nut

    Well my 350 broke the frame in half due to too much torque. Major welding to get it back together and solid...
     
  12. Bens99gtp

    Bens99gtp Well-Known Member

    Maybe I'm lucky so far but be er broke a mount, been running 10.90 on a 3850 lb car off the tbrake or footbrake. Going to add front plates here soon. I would e worried in making the mounts stronger is only going to flex the block more. The stronger you make the mounts now the over forces that would had broken it are going to go into the block. Thus will distort #2 main, the cylinders in that area.

    There is always a week link, or needs to be and I try to make it a cheap to replace and easy to get to part.
     
  13. 12lives

    12lives Control the controllable, let the rest go

    There are lock nuts that do not use the nylon insert -called high heat lock nuts. One thread is distorted and holds the nut on.
     
  14. thumper

    thumper thumper

    Another word for those nuts (jam nuts)
     
  15. Briz

    Briz Founders Club Member

    Bet if ya used carriage head bolts there would be no need to massage the heads for clearance
     
  16. DaWildcat

    DaWildcat Platinum Level Contributor

    Agreed. Something like this would be a big help for clearance:

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    Just search for Ultra Low-Profile Hex Socket Cap Screw.

    Devon
     
  17. dynaflow

    dynaflow shiftless...

    ...I'd stick w/graded hex head...
     
  18. John Codman

    John Codman Platinum Level Contributor

    I spit the pinion gear completely through the rear axle cover on my first '55 Buick stickshift.
     
  19. Mart

    Mart Gold level member

    1/4" grade bolts with crimped locknuts without the nylon is plenty strong.
     

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  20. Fox's Den

    Fox's Den 355Xrs

    There was another article out there I saw where the two pieces were welded together instead of bolted.
     

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