I know my PD has an overrtime grant for traffic enforcement in high accident areas. We have Sgt's and Det's taking advantage of the overtime.
Expert? Why be so snide? Is that your nature? I know as much as the next guy. Maybe more so than you. Not Guilty? Uh, no,I don't agree with that. We are under DeFacto law now since 1938 thanks to Roosevelt's stacked Supreme Court.Before that,we had DeJure law in this country. An example of DeJure law is small claims court. You don't seem to understand the true nature of the way law is applied in this country. Take a look at the American flag on display behind the judge in a courtroom. It is gold fringed which denotes a military jurisdiction. The state flag on display is gold fringed too. It is not for looks or decoration despite what Snopes, the judge, or others might claim. You are guilty until proven innocent just like in the military. The issuance of a citation is a claim of guilt by an officer of the court. You are guilty in their eyes unless you can come up with some convincing evidence showing otherwise. Some history on the American flags. Hopefully you will understand the meaning and jurisdiction of flag display. http://www.uscivilflags.org/home.html And WTH does military servitude have to do with Frank's citation? Why would it thrill you so much to know? I don't believe in slavery BTW.
At least one person agreed with me. As someone who may often agree with me than others may, I don't understand why this isn't so apparent? o No: No one has to agree with the "system" especially when it is not as honest as it's purported to be. Speed limits are arbitrary, and so is the process of giving tickets. . . hell, receiving a ticket is not a misdemeanor, so all this talk about "personal responsibility" is laughable. Instead of setting the limit at an artificially low number, why not set it at something that's "prudent and reasonable" where the traffic flow can find a nice groove and where the cops give tickets at 3 above? It's a joke that there's such a high buffer for current limits because it shows there's nothing concrete except a corrupt police force, insurance industry, etc.
Diego, Your argument lacks any merit whatsoever. You say "the system is wrong, it brought us Slavery" But you leave out the obvious fact that the citizens of this country realized that the "system" that was handed down to them, based on 17th Century customs, was flawed, and worked to correct the issue. That exactly illustrates my point, if it's broke, fix it. :Smarty: As to your latest argument... what, if it's a felony to get a ticket, is that when being responsible for your actions kicks in? o No: Please, enlighten us mere mortals on where the line is here.... And as pglade's post states, he knows the road, and it's known to be a high accident area, hence the speed limit. It's not the corrupt police department and the evil insurance companies scheming together to take money out of the innocent driver's pocket as you pontificated. :error: That has to be the silliest, knee-jerk comment I have ever seen you post. Nor was he given a ticket for 3MPH over, as you try and imply.. Try 13 mph.. that's a whole different deal. uzzled: I am sure you can come up with a better argument than this..:idea2: your attempts here have been pretty weak lately... what you under the weather? JW
Diego---If you saw this road, especially the hilly and curvy part(both at the same time in many parts) that makes up a lot of the section that Frank mentions I suspect you would think the speed limit is anything but arbitrary. This part of FM 2222, when you start at the part that is in town, is what I call the "set up, get comfortable, and get brave area" of the road. There's also some real nice hills you top along it and many times end up with someone trying to exit onto or enter off a side road almost in front of you. Anyway, this initial part is somewhat like the rest of this road--- curvy, hilly, winding---but all compacted down somewhat so the curves come faster, the hills are steeper, etc. It's in this section that people traveling out this road for a blast down 2222 "get prepared". After Loop 360, which Frank mentions, it stretches out and that's where people start really cranking it up. It's a great road to cruise out on (not as good as it used to be as it's gotten pretty developed....of course that means more entering and exiting traffic also). It's a favorite for motorcyclists also. Crotch rockets and Harley's...they all love this road. It's also INFAMOUS, as I alluded to in my earlier posting. One of the most infamous "spots" is Tumbleweed Hill (back in the late '70's there was a steak place called Texas Tumbleweed at the top of this hill...thus the name). This is a LONG, LONG STRAIGHT hill that if you are coming down, you can make some massive speed. Problem is, there is a curve in the road at the base of the hill. One of my best friend's little brother split a 1980 or so VW Scirocco IN HALF coming down that hill. It wasn't some rust bucket that made it break in half...it was the fact he was doing about 95 when he crossed the centerline and hit a guy driving to his janitorial job with his 5 year old or so daughter in the car. Net result...my buddy's brother and the little girl in the other car survived. The guy driving the other car was dead and the girl in the "back half" of the Scirocco was toast as well as the guy in the passenger seat of the Scirocco. I think the only reason my buddy's bro survived is they Lifeflighted him out of there....he was laying on the side of the road with one leg twisted up behind his back with that foot touching his head. My buddy's bro and his two friends were toasted on who-knows-what from a day of partying out at the lake. It didn't help that my buddy's bro was a complete wild-ass and really didn't need any "enhancers" or "help" to do crazy stuff. One of the wildest rides I took was with this guy in his '70 GS 455 in a residential area. I wouldn't get in a car with the guy after that...he had no fear and apparently not a lot of sense either (nor did I at the time apparently as I got in the car with him!ou: ) Stuff like that seems to happen on that road every couple of years. It's a place where they really "do the wrecks up big"....no fender benders when something goes awry on 2222....it's more of a "how many this time?" deal. My take is the police know if they can stop someone early on that road they may be preventing an accident further down the road where that person might have been "home free" to crank it up on the stretched-out-but-still somewhat-and-curvy part of this road. A speed trap on that road is so far from being arbitrary it's not even funny. Couple all that with the generally crappy drivers we have down here and I say the officer was doing his job. When I say crappy drivers I don't mean Frank specifically....he knows what I mean. We have a buttload of people here that just don't pay attention to driving while they ARE driving.
You can't do it can you? I figured as much. When a policeman says "this is not an admission of guilt, it is an acknowledgment that I explained the citation and your right to oppose it in a court of law", is that not a statement that he is accusing you but the court presumes you to be innocent unless they prove otherwise? I can accuse you of being whatever I want, but in everyone's eyes you are innocent until I prove that you are guilty. That's how our system works. Unfortunately it doesn't work that way all the time, that's because people are in the mix. You claim to be all-knowing when it comes to - well, pretty much everything - and I'm calling BS on your knowledge of the origin of military procedures and command structure. Did you or did you not serve in our military?
Maybe you do, maybe you don't? It wasn't a snide comment, perhaps you missed the laughing smiley at the end of that line? OMG, that site is laughable. I'm sorry but I can't take you seriously anymore. And, well, you would be wrong on that point about the flag fringe. Link and... and still more... I applaud your intense love for the Constitution and I agree that we need to return our government and legal system to a model much closer to the founders' ideas than it has been in decades. It has been bastardized beyond comprehension but that's about as far as I'll walk with you. And I'll leave it at that. :grin:
Who is acting like a know it all??o No: Your comebacks are quite laughable,too. And your BS website link. A more official source of proof would be Presedential Executive Order 10834 which is also filed in the Federal Register. You can even read about it on this BS website link. http://www.apfn.net/Messageboard/09-05-07/discussion.cgi.102.html And read the input on this website discussion. Especially read the part where it starts "America is Bankrupt" on down,but read all of it. Let it sink in. You can choose not to believe it,I could really care less and continue to believe whatever you want. I'll think what I want, free nation or not. And we'll leave it at that. The bankrptcy in 1933 is a real thing declared by president. It is law. It is fact that it happened. That lead to the big changes in all the laws in this country beginning in 1938. Sorry,GUILTY UNTIL PROVEN INNOCENT. http://www.usa-flag-site.org/forum/why-does-american-flag-have-gold-15-5.html Ha, this last link reminds me of the debating etc that goes on here!
Ok Ted, you win. Feel better? You still didn't answer my question. Live in your fantasy world if you like, I really don't care. What I do care about is misinformation and from what I've seen over the last year or so here you've got an awful lot of it. But to be fair to Frank, that's not what this thread was about so I'll refrain from any more discussion about the non-ticket issues with you.
You didn't go over my head at all. I just responded to your quote above. It's a no brainer that you have no "maximum" number of citations to write, but you DO have a minimum number of citations that have to be written in order to maintain the budgeted revenue.
This has been the most fun that I have had since I first joined the group! Keep those comments coming!!!:laugh:
