my car says saddle interior was original but what's with this print ad?

Discussion in 'Interior City' started by mrdorkdar, Jan 25, 2013.

  1. mrdorkdar

    mrdorkdar Well-Known Member

    This says for 67 that the bucket coupe was dove black blue yellow or aqua. Where is the saddle?!

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  2. Duane

    Duane Member

    That's easy for 1967 Bucket seats were not available in Saddle.

    According to my records (for a 67 GS) the Saddle interior was only available as a front bench with armrest.
    Duane
     
  3. mrdorkdar

    mrdorkdar Well-Known Member

    Well my vin or cowl tag says saddle...
     
  4. Duane

    Duane Member

    Just because it says its saddle doesn't mean it came with a bucket seat interior.

    Trim code number 163 is a Deluxe Saddle front bench with armrest interior. I have no other trim code numbers for (67 GS) Saddle vinyl seat interiors.


    For 67 the bucket seat interior colors, were Black, Dk. Blue, Dove, Aqua, Red, and Yellow.
    Duane
     
  5. mrdorkdar

    mrdorkdar Well-Known Member

    Then why did OPGI sell me a saddle interior for bucket seats?
     
  6. Duane

    Duane Member

    You can believe me or not, I really don't care......................but if you look on your ID plate and list the trim code number then you will know what is correct. My notes show you could get the saddle interior for both the coupe or convertible.................oh, and by the way you have someone here that is trying to help you. If you don't want to believe me then that's on you and there is no further need to try to help.

    As to: "Then why did OPGI sell me a saddle interior for bucket seats?"

    I can't answer that as I don't work for, or own OPGI.
    Duane

    PS. I will say this though, if you wanted to buy a set of 67 Saddle front buckets from me I would have told you they were not an available option before I made them. Back when I had my upholstery business we did make quite a few "unique" color/seat options for people, including a bright red 70 bucket seat interior, and a few 70 Sandlewood buckets............there was also a really ugly multi colored and striped leather interior I made for this one guy but that's another story.:laugh:
     
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  7. mrdorkdar

    mrdorkdar Well-Known Member

    Whoa dude you took that completely the wrong way. I appreciate your help I'm not arguing with you at all that's why I'm on this site. I'm more curious why OPGI sold me something if its not originally supposed to be on my car!?

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    Would you say the headliner should be saddle too?
     
  8. Duane

    Duane Member

    If I remember correctly, and this is going from memory, in 67 everything would be saddle, including the carpet etc. Others on this board are 67 nuts and they can probably help you more. It's been a long time since I played with a 67 car.

    Most companies don't know exactly what color/seat styles were used for each year car. Some colors were used in coupes only and not convertibles. Without doing all the research, companies would have no way of knowing that.

    When I had my interior business going and would start up a new model run, such as the Buick GS/Skylarks I would purchase each model year trim book. This gave me all the original colors plus all the Trim Code numbers. That way I knew what I needed to make and didn't make a set of seats that were not available, and would sit on the shelf forever.

    I actually trained my venders, especially the Ford guys, to use the trim code numbers to order my parts. That way there was no confusion, plus it helped minimize returns. (You could order 5 different black interiors for a 69 Cougar, talk about confusion.) I even went so far as to work with Year One to develop a "smart" numbering system to code everything. If you look in their catalogues you can still see the numbering system.


    You ask why OPGI sold you something if its not originally supposed to be on your car!?....... companies do that all the time. Many companies sell spare tire covers for the 69-72 Buick GS/Skylarks and they never had them. They used a flat board to cover the top of the tire only, so everyone that buys one is throwing their money away.

    If you are trying to restore a car you need to personally do your homework and find out what's correct.

    Case in point, in another of your threads you ask about "correct" 15" rims for your 67 a-body disc brake car. The answer is 67's only came with 14" rims, and if yours has disc brakes then Buick used the Chevy style rally wheel with a Buick center. This was the ONLY wheel available at the time that would clear the disc brakes. Buick had nothing, so they grabbed some Chevy inventory and threw a different center on the rim.

    Now you can easily find later year 15" original wheels that will clear your brakes, but they are not correct for your car.
    Duane
     
    Last edited: Jan 26, 2013
  9. Mark Ascher

    Mark Ascher 65GS.com

    "I'm more curious why OPGI sold me something if its not originally supposed to be on my car!?"

    Interesting question. I haven't looked, but I assume OPGI sells disc brake conversion kits, tandem master cylinders for pre-66, you get the idea. They sell all kinds of things that were not "originally supposed to be on my car."

    I ordered an all vinyl interior for my 66 Impala coupe a long time ago. I got exactly what I ordered, but no 66 Impala coupe
    ever came that way originally. A suggestion might be to reach out to the resident 67 experts here and get their feedback.

    Mark
     
    Last edited: Jan 26, 2013
  10. Brad Conley

    Brad Conley RIP Staff Member

    Hey, Hey, Hey...careful there!

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    Don't worry mrdorkdar, Duane's bark is worse than his bite! You know, those Philly guys... :)

    And if you have a saddle interior, your headliner would be saddle also. Might help if you posted your trim tag or it's info so we can help you more.
     
  11. Duane

    Duane Member

    Yeah,
    I forgot it had an UGLY steering wheel too.:laugh:
    Duane
     
  12. cjp69

    cjp69 Gold Level Contributor

    Mrdorkdar, can u post a pic of your trim tag?
     
  13. mrdorkdar

    mrdorkdar Well-Known Member

  14. stg2NW

    stg2NW Well-Known Member

    Code 193 is Pearl Yellow.
     
  15. mrdorkdar

    mrdorkdar Well-Known Member

  16. stg2NW

    stg2NW Well-Known Member

    That is interesting. I have seen several cars both in person and on here that had code 193 with pearl yellow. Jarrod Campbells car is Ivory w/ pearl yellow interior as well as tufbuick's car that has been in the for sale section. The 9k GS400 is black with pearl interior and George's black widow II originally was black with pearl interior. My GS400 originally was Gold Mist w/ pearl interior.

    But.... We have all seen and learned different thing could be ordered at different factories. So, your's may have been saddle:Do No:

    Good luck. Are you going for stock BTW? I'm sure saddle would look great also.
     
  17. austingta

    austingta Well-Known Member

  18. Duane

    Duane Member

    The page you linked to doesn't even have half the trim codes used for 67. It doesn't even have any of the "160" series numbers for the front bench with armrest interiors.

    Trim Code 193 is for the Yellow front bucket seat interior. That was a 1 year only thing and was a very rare interior color.

    I can see where there could be confusion with the 1967 "--3" trim codes. Usually the third number designates the color, while the second number designates the seat type, ie

    for 1967
    190 series numbers = deluxe buckets
    180 series numbers = deluxe front bench without armrest
    160 series numbers = deluxe front bench with armrest

    and the colors were
    --8 Black
    --1 Dk. Blue
    --4 Dove
    --6 Aqua
    --7 Red
    so if you had a trim number of 198 it was black buckets, but if it was 168 it was a black bench with armrest



    .........................but for 1967 when you get to "--3" codes the color depends on the seat type

    193 is the yellow front buckets, while 163 is the Saddle front bench with armrest.

    The guys that put that page together "ass-umed" the 67 buick trim codes followed the same rules as every other year, but they were wrong.
    Duane
     
  19. BUQUICK

    BUQUICK I'm your huckleberry.

    Here are some photos of two well preserved, low mileage '67 GS400s both with code 193 interiors. Both cars have original upholstry, not reproduction. The yellow interior isn't very yellow as you can see. So the idea of a black car or a light green car with a "yellow" interior isn't as ugly as it sounds.
     

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  20. mrdorkdar

    mrdorkdar Well-Known Member

    I'm guessing black carpet and black headliner?

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    I guess I need a whole new interior...anyone sell pearl yellow?? Cause it doesn't look like opgi does...
     

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