Other undocumented cars like gto wagons that people know about?

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  1. TROSE11SECGN

    TROSE11SECGN Boost is my drug

    List them if you own them or tell us about them, real cars, even with no documentation, but NO CLONES PLEASE!!! :beer Thanks in advance!
     
  2. 442w30

    442w30 Well-Known Member

    If they are not documented, then how do we know they're real? :Do No:
     
  3. my3buicks

    my3buicks Guest

    67 Special Convert

    I have an original from the factory 1967 Special Deluxe Convert with GS400 driveline & frame with a 4 speed - It has a special rare factory Stage 1/2 experimental engine in it - Did I mention it has a front and rear spoiler similar to the prorotype GSX of Brad's? :Brow: :rolleyes: :Dou:
     
  4. BuickLeSabre1960

    BuickLeSabre1960 Hot Dogs Anyone?

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    1978 MercuryMonarch 2-door Ghia 302 with the sport option. It belonged to my Grandfathers brother bought new for his wife. When they passed away my Grandfather inherited it who gave it to me when I was 7. It sat 12 years under a pin oak and I moved it to our house 3 years ago. When we were moving here it was on a trailer and the truck pulling it had posts coming off the back and when we made a sharp turn it went into the front of the Monarch. Right now it is waiting in line for a restoration :TU:
     
  5. GRNDNL

    GRNDNL Wannabe

    Heres one for the Pontiac Guys....How about a 64 Lemans Convertible, Red on Red, Buckets, Console, 389 4bbl, 4 speed, Posi.........
     
  6. Canuck

    Canuck Muscle Cars Forever

    One off and one of none cars

    All the manufactures had exceptions when it came to building cars. If you had enough clout or could convince your zone rep to do something different then it got done.

    Examples I know of:

    1963 Olds Starfire build for Oil Tycoon with Optically ground windshield because he didn't want to wear glasses.
    In Olds collection now.

    1960 Chrysler 300F Convert with 400HP engine and 4 speed. Only one built for friend of Karl Keikaufer founder of Mercury Marine who raced Chrysler 300 in 1956.

    1960 300F 4 speed with Air, built for Andy Drumm of Fallon Nevada. Drumm was the road construction king in Nevada in 1960 and a good friend of Bill Harrah and a big customer of Chrysler. Chrysler built the car for him when he threthened to take his business elsewhere. All other 4 speed cars (7) were built for special racing customers.

    1970 w-30 hardtop with Cutlass S trim, no stripes and plain wheels and whitewalls. Have picture and saw in person in 1992.

    1968 Ford LTD 4 door Hardtop 427 and 4 speed. Sat in the dealer showroom for a year in my hometown after person who ordered it cancelled. He was a big Ford Customer who bought lots of other cars so they just sucked it up.

    The issue is , connection, persistance and patience and you got what you wanted.

    Other cars may have been build as un official prototypes and sold to the public inadvertantly.
     
  7. Casey Marks

    Casey Marks Res Ipsa Loquitur

    Paul,

    Can you post that picture ? Sounds cool. :beer
     
  8. Dave H

    Dave H Well-Known Member

    I recall a 68 Olds Delta Custom 4 door hardtop, red, black vinyl top, with every conceivable option except was a 4 speed, no console. Car sat forever in our repair area in the plantwaiting for Engineering disposition on shift linkage.

    .....and (2) body in white 70 W31's with swiss cheese frames and no rear crossmember. Chassis built on line, timed to just complete body drop at break time, pulled off line there and shoved out the back door into a closed trailer. Never seen or heard of again.

    Then there was the "2 headed" Toronado that were used to melt and blow off the ice and snow from the trilevel rail cars in the winter. Actually was built from the front ends of 2 cars welded back to back, had large propane tanks and flame throwers on each end. Could run and drive it from either end. Looked like a dragon at night.
     
  9. Canuck

    Canuck Muscle Cars Forever


    Will locate picture and scan, was taken pre digital camera days.
     
  10. lostGS

    lostGS Well-Known Member

    Well it is documanted but never talked about What about the 70 Chysler 300H(urst)?

    The 70 Rallye 350 with the W-31
     
  11. Keith Seymore

    Keith Seymore Well-Known Member

    Persistance: 1974 Chevelle Couple "Police Package" - built in Oshawa. Dad kept bugging the zone rep until finally he said "...here's the phone number for the guy in Oshawa. Call him and tell him what you want". So we did - the car came with all the cool parts but the Police option does not show on the manifest.

    Connections: 1965 GTO "Factory Lightweight" - one of six, made from thin gage sheet metal. Came with battery mounted in the trunk and not a lick of paperwork anywere (no window sticker and no money exchanged). We've got the Protectoplate and a signed note from salesman Dick Jesse (in pencil, no less) that says "NO COD". This one was featured in a 2 part series in "High Performance Pontiac" last year.

    K
     
  12. Keith Seymore

    Keith Seymore Well-Known Member

    Like this?

    This one (the red one) was a 421! It was a test "mule" at the Milford Proving Ground. It was faster than our 389 powered '64 racecar!

    K
     

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  13. Brian Stefina

    Brian Stefina Well-Known Member

    That is a realy cool pic Keith.......Sweet test mule!....what town and neighborhood was that taken. Looks like the houses on the camera side of the street were still under construction!

    Reminds me of 8mm footage of Dad bringing home the '64 Colony Park in Ypsi....with open fields in the background
     
  14. Keith Seymore

    Keith Seymore Well-Known Member

    Flint, Michigan. The house is still there (and the houses across the street are finished, of course). We lived there until 1969 when we moved to Davison and the house that my parents are still living in.

    K
     
  15. Keith Seymore

    Keith Seymore Well-Known Member

    I almost forgot -

    Our '63 Catalina was one of two: 421 HO (hydraulic cam) with aluminum front end, hood, bumpers and decklid (essentially a "swiss cheese" car on a regular frame). Aluminum wheels, nocturne blue exterior and a special tri-color interior. This was the car they developed the "Royal Bobcat" apprearance package on.

    It was scrapped when they needed the aluminum to repair a damaged front end on one of the factory race cars.

    This car is documented in Pete McCarthy's book but we never had any paperwork on it.

    The only picture we have (other than a "panned shot" on a home movie):
     

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  16. BlackGold

    BlackGold Well-Known Member

    Awe come on, Dave. Now you're just messing with us! :puzzled:
     
  17. John Eberly

    John Eberly Well-Known Member

    Grain of Salt

    During my street racing days in high school there was a red Vista Cruiser bodied Olds wagon with 442 and W car emblems on it. This was mid to late 70's - would anybody have bothered to clone a car like this at that time?

    Car was rumored to be "very fast", but I never lined up with it in my Firebird.

    Muskegon Michigan circa 1978.
     
  18. Brian Stefina

    Brian Stefina Well-Known Member

    Was this another mule Keith? Did your family get it after it was scrapped without the aluminum stuff or? When I was with Hydramatic lots of neat stuff was scrapped......nearly all was destroyed though too much threat of litigation. :ball:
     
  19. Keith Seymore

    Keith Seymore Well-Known Member

    No -

    It was a "production" car; we bought it "off the lot" (...so to speak). That was our first Pontiac purchase.

    The last time we saw it it was a beautiful nocturne blue cube about the size of my desk. :ball: They gave us the '64 to make up for it. :laugh:

    K
     
  20. Dave H

    Dave H Well-Known Member

    Now would I do that? Actually this was the second ne of these. First was a 66 Cutlass Supreme 4 dr HT with the doors removed, one bucket seat, and large propane tanks in the passenger seat area. Flame throwers mounted out front. Made from an old Engineering test car. Problem with it, is it was too hard to back it up all the way (3 rail cars long). The melted ice/snow would refreeze on the metal tracks and made it almost impossible to get back.

    That's when they got the idea to take 2 Toronadoes, (Toronados(? sp? Where's Dan Quayle when we need spelling help?)) cut them in half, weld the 2 front ends together and you can run it with one end all the way, shut off that end, put it in neutral, swivel the seat around, start up the other end, drive it the other way way. Running the flame throwers on eack end resolved the refreezing problem. Locking steering columns were suffiicient to keep the "dead" end in line.

    Project more than paid for itself in reduced bumper damage when the cars would slide on the ice into one another. Didn't use it too long as soon after, they went to the covered and enclosed rail cars due to vandalism and snipers.

    Now do you really think I'd be BS'ing you and make this all up? :laugh: :laugh:
     

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